[Logic] Buckmaster callbook web site

2003年7月15日 20:31:35 -0500

It reduces the value because the Buckmaster was and is the best site and
because I will make you a little bet. It will not be very long and we will
lose access to all of the commercial sites. That is going to happen.
I did NOT say that it means Logic is worthless, just worth less.
Gil, W0MN http://webpages.charter.net/gbaron
44.08N 92.512835W 1050'
Hierro Candente, Batir de repente
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]On
> Behalf Of Richard Thorne
> Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 5:28 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [Logic] Buckmaster callbook web site
>>> Why in the world would it decrease the value of Logic?????????????????????
>> We have only lost access to the Buckmaster web site, not the FCC
> or QRZ web
> sites.
>> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "rojomn" <[email protected]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 5:16 PM
> Subject: RE: [Logic] Buckmaster callbook web site
>>> > I can see the point they make. They really can't afford to make
> it free. I
> > can also see that very few people are gong to pay 80 bucks a
> year as they
> > are not that active. I guess eqsl.cc and LOTW from ARRL are the only
> > reasonable alternatives and I think this is what will happen. I
> knew this
> > was too good to last. It also has removed one of Logics most useful
> > functions which is going to decrease the value of logic. A perhaps
> > unintended but severe consequence.
> >
> >
> > Gil, W0MN http://webpages.charter.net/gbaron
> > 44.08N 92.512835W 1050'
> > Hierro Candente, Batir de repente
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: [email protected]
> [mailto:[email protected]]On
> > > Behalf Of Daniel L. Bateman
> > > Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 3:16 PM
> > > To: [email protected]
> > > Subject: Re: [Logic] Buckmaster callbook web site
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > My name is Dan Bateman, I work for Buckmaster Publishing,
> the company
> > > that makes the HamCall CD-ROM. As some LOGic users have
> noticed, we've
> > > changed our callsign lookup website so the information is no longer
> > > understandable to computer programs. This was originally to keep
> > > automated
> > > programs from harvesting information from our website, especially
> > > people's
> > > e-mail addresses. It's a known fact that spammers get many of their
> > > addresses to mail to from automated programs that surf the web
> > > looking for
> > > e-mail addresses. The HamCall site with it's 160,000+ e-mail
> > > addresses was
> > > a prime target, although we don't believe any significant number
> > > have been
> > > harvested due to diligence on our part in watching server
> > > activity. We've
> > > also found that automated programs tend to put a large strain on
> > > our server
> > > and bandwidth, they're not very polite and do several lookups
> per second
> > > for hours or longer. All that doesn't apply to LOGic, but it's
> > > part of why
> > > we changed the way our server returns callsign data.
> > >
> > > Also, thinking of the long-term, even though we enjoy our work on
> > > HamCall and would like to be able to do it for free, it is
> our means of
> > > support and we can't afford to give it all away for free. A
> > > limited number
> > > of web browser-based lookups is fine to demonstrate the
> > > completeness of our
> > > database, but the enhanced functionality of actually
> supplying callsign
> > > data to be parsed into fields and digested into a program is something
> we
> > > feel we deserve to be paid for.
> > >
> > > So where does this leave LOGic users? The combination of a logging
> > > program and HamCall is a great tool, but we realize that
> CD-ROMs are to
> a
> > > certain extent out of date as soon as you receive them, even with
> > > HamCall's
> > > ability to download monthly update files. Hundreds or thousands
> > > of changes
> > > are made to our database every day. What we would like to
> propose is a
> > > Internet-based callsign lookup system where for each lookup the LOGic
> > > program would submit to our server the callsign you want to
> look up and
> > > your registered HamCall callsign and password. Our server would then
> > > return the full data for that callsign, right out of the
> current master
> > > HamCall database. LOGic could treat these lookups just like
> > > lookups from a
> > > CD-ROM, and it could save your login information so you
> wouldn't have to
> > > type it in each time.
> > >
> > > A password is included with each HamCall CD-ROM. If you
> already have
> > > one your current password would work just fine. Otherwise the HamCall
> CD
> > > can be had for 50,ドル or as little as 30ドル if you get one through our
> > > auctions. Both of these come with a password good for 6 months. For
> 80ドル
> > > you can get a CD with a password good for a full year of lookups. In
> the
> > > future we may offer an Internet-only subscription for a lower
> > > price if the
> > > interest is sufficient.
> > >
> > > I realize some people will never pay for what they can manage
> > > to get for
> > > free elsewhere, even if it's not the most accurate or current
> > > data. But we
> > > believe that most people think it's reasonable to pay something for a
> > > useful service. Plus with the expenses of getting a QSL card up to a
> > > dollar or two, good current addresses are important and
> should be worth
> > > something. We're interested in everyone's input and comments,
> > > and Dennis,
> > > let us know if you're interested in the Internet-based callsign lookup
> > > system. It shouldn't be hard for you or us to implement.
> > >
> > >
> > > 73,
> > >
> > > -Dan Bateman
> > > http://hamcall.net
> > >
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