[Logic] Buckmaster callbook web site

2003年7月15日 17:16:56 -0500

I can see the point they make. They really can't afford to make it free. I
can also see that very few people are gong to pay 80 bucks a year as they
are not that active. I guess eqsl.cc and LOTW from ARRL are the only
reasonable alternatives and I think this is what will happen. I knew this
was too good to last. It also has removed one of Logics most useful
functions which is going to decrease the value of logic. A perhaps
unintended but severe consequence.
Gil, W0MN http://webpages.charter.net/gbaron
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]On
> Behalf Of Daniel L. Bateman
> Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 3:16 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [Logic] Buckmaster callbook web site
>>>> Hi,
>> My name is Dan Bateman, I work for Buckmaster Publishing, the company
> that makes the HamCall CD-ROM. As some LOGic users have noticed, we've
> changed our callsign lookup website so the information is no longer
> understandable to computer programs. This was originally to keep
> automated
> programs from harvesting information from our website, especially
> people's
> e-mail addresses. It's a known fact that spammers get many of their
> addresses to mail to from automated programs that surf the web
> looking for
> e-mail addresses. The HamCall site with it's 160,000+ e-mail
> addresses was
> a prime target, although we don't believe any significant number
> have been
> harvested due to diligence on our part in watching server
> activity. We've
> also found that automated programs tend to put a large strain on
> our server
> and bandwidth, they're not very polite and do several lookups per second
> for hours or longer. All that doesn't apply to LOGic, but it's
> part of why
> we changed the way our server returns callsign data.
>> Also, thinking of the long-term, even though we enjoy our work on
> HamCall and would like to be able to do it for free, it is our means of
> support and we can't afford to give it all away for free. A
> limited number
> of web browser-based lookups is fine to demonstrate the
> completeness of our
> database, but the enhanced functionality of actually supplying callsign
> data to be parsed into fields and digested into a program is something we
> feel we deserve to be paid for.
>> So where does this leave LOGic users? The combination of a logging
> program and HamCall is a great tool, but we realize that CD-ROMs are to a
> certain extent out of date as soon as you receive them, even with
> HamCall's
> ability to download monthly update files. Hundreds or thousands
> of changes
> are made to our database every day. What we would like to propose is a
> Internet-based callsign lookup system where for each lookup the LOGic
> program would submit to our server the callsign you want to look up and
> your registered HamCall callsign and password. Our server would then
> return the full data for that callsign, right out of the current master
> HamCall database. LOGic could treat these lookups just like
> lookups from a
> CD-ROM, and it could save your login information so you wouldn't have to
> type it in each time.
>> A password is included with each HamCall CD-ROM. If you already have
> one your current password would work just fine. Otherwise the HamCall CD
> can be had for 50,ドル or as little as 30ドル if you get one through our
> auctions. Both of these come with a password good for 6 months. For 80ドル
> you can get a CD with a password good for a full year of lookups. In the
> future we may offer an Internet-only subscription for a lower
> price if the
> interest is sufficient.
>> I realize some people will never pay for what they can manage
> to get for
> free elsewhere, even if it's not the most accurate or current
> data. But we
> believe that most people think it's reasonable to pay something for a
> useful service. Plus with the expenses of getting a QSL card up to a
> dollar or two, good current addresses are important and should be worth
> something. We're interested in everyone's input and comments,
> and Dennis,
> let us know if you're interested in the Internet-based callsign lookup
> system. It shouldn't be hard for you or us to implement.
>>> 73,
>> -Dan Bateman
> http://hamcall.net
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