Fw: FW: [Logic] UTC

Tue, 9 Apr 2002 17:09:50 -0700

DST does not effect UTC...... UTC stays the same regardless when DST =
begins or ends. DST begins the first Sunday in April and ends the last =
Sunday in October. Therefore if logic has a setting to where it can be =
set for UTC not to change when DST changes, that will work. Im still =
renewing myself with the new features of logic so I havent got that far =
to see what options are there for UTC changes verses DSTso Im only =
giving an opinion.
Carleton, AA6GZ
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Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2002 4:28 PM
Subject: Re: FW: [Logic] UTC
Why does LOGic have to directly depend on the clock for DST?
Since in the U.S. clocks are set ahead the "Second Sunday in April @ 2
am and " Back the Sunday in October @ 2 am " Why not pick this from the
Setup screen, since its different in other countries. Then when LOGic is
run and detects that there is a time change different fro what is in the
built in list, issue a warning message to check your clock for an =
update,
or let LOGic ask should it continue and adjust the time + or - as needed
before allowing the next logged entry can be entered.
The operator would only have to pick this once when LOGic is installed,
the way you set the time zone in Windows from a built in list
representing the day light rule for what ever area you live in.
According to my 'WT 5' clock program which has a built in DST manager
there are about 6 areas in the world that use Day light Saving time. =
Most
follow the American setup of Oct & April to change the time. Other place
like Europe uses " Last Sunday in March @ 2 am and last Sunday in Oct. 2
am". So all LOGic would have to know is were the it is in the world and
which " DST " rule to use.=20
Another simple way to set it up in LOGic would be to have another UTC =
off
box, in the setup screen One for how many + hours UTC and when to make
it active. A box is need to type in the date "Second Sunday April and
time 2:00 AM the same for the - hours UTC. Then when LOGic detects that =
a
time change has been reached issue a warning of the time change and ask
if it should continue to make the time adjustment before continue to log
in the contact.
You would only have to set this all once when you put in you Station
information.
73
Tony WB2JRI
On Tue, 9 Apr 2002 06:03:59 -0400 "PDA" <[email protected]> writes:
> Ok, no one is forcing anyone to use UTC.
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> All you need to do is tell your computer to local=20
> time, and to NOT automatically update the clock for=20
> DST. If DST comes or goes, so what--LOGic still=20
> logs correctly. When you change your system clock,=20
> change LOGic.
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> Getting the UTC offset from Windows sounds like a=20
> great idea unless you think about it. LOGic has to=20
> be operational while DST changeover happens. This=20
> would require checking the system time zone every=20
> time we update the clock. Or it could be done only=20
> when requesting the time to put in a QSO record,=20
> but that would require a second clock, and the time=20
> logged could be different from what is displayed in=20
> info, and doubtless someone would be upset abt=20
> that.
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> So, I'm open to suggestions.
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> 73,
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> DH
> From: "Gil Baron" <[email protected]>
> To: "Logic Support."=20
> <[email protected]>
> Subject: FW: [Logic] UTC
> Date sent: Mon, 8 Apr 2002 09:05:15 -
> 0500
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> Dennis , as you can see, I am not the only one that=20
> thinks that you should
> fix the time problem. It is VERY easy to mess up=20
> your contacts and then you
> do not get a QSL.
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> I pointed this out way back in version 3. Can you=20
> give a reasonable
> explanation of why this has not been fixed? At the=20
> very least it should be
> an option. Forcing me to us UTC on my system is=20
> not acceptable.
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Carl Smidt [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 7:43 AM
> To: Gil Baron
> Subject: Re: [Logic] UTC
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> Come to think of it Gil, I forgot one year and almost=20
> screwed up some very
> nice DX. This is something for our 'wish list', Dennis=20
> has taken note I am
> sure.
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> 73, Carl VE9OV
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Gil Baron" <[email protected]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 9:36 AM
> Subject: RE: [Logic] UTC
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> > It is easy to change. That is not the point. It is even easier to=20
> forget,
> > then you have incorrect times. This is a SAD lack of function on=20
> the part
> of
> > logic if true. A windows program is supposed to get time offsets=20
> from
> > windows, not force you to do it yourself.
> >
> > I hope some day this is done.
> >
> > Note this is not sent to the list, I am afraid to.
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [email protected]=20
> [mailto:[email protected]]On
> > Behalf Of Carl Smidt
> > Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 7:21 AM
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: Re: [Logic] UTC
> >
> >
> > I would say that it is pretty easy to change even without it being
> > automatic. Three clicks of the mouse does it: 1) click the (+ -)=20
> sign in
> > Info window, 2) click UTC Offset (up/down), 3) click, 'ok'. Almost=20
> less
> work
> > than typing in a call.
> >
> > 73, Carl VE9OV
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Gil Baron" <[email protected]>
> > To: <[email protected]>
> > Sent: Sunday, April 07, 2002 11:00 PM
> > Subject: [Logic] UTC
> >
> >
> > > Is there any way to make Logic automatically handle the system=20

> time. The
> > > system time changed fine at the time change but Logic still has=20
> a
> standard
> > > time offset.
> > >
> > > Can anyone tell me how to make this work WITHOUT setting my=20
> system clock
> > to
> > > UTC? I cannot do that as other programs in use require local=20
> time.
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73
Tony WB2JRI
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