Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2009 14:19:35 -0500 From: Thor Lancelot Simon <tls%rek.tjls.com@localhost> Message-ID: <20090201191935.GA7809%panix.com@localhost> | What do you mean, "has wheel permission"? He means init is gid==0 when it runs rc scripts, so processes started by rc scripts run as group 0 by default. kre