Re: Upstream is not the last word (was Re: [ANN] Lua 5.1.5 (rc1)	now available)
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- Subject: Re: Upstream is not the last word (was Re: [ANN] Lua 5.1.5 (rc1)	now available)
 
- From: Sean Conner <sean@...>
 
- Date: 2012年2月14日 12:07:06 -0500
 
It was thus said that the Great Ross Bencina once stated:
> On 14/02/2012 7:39 PM, Sean Conner wrote:
> >It was thus said that the Great Ross Bencina once stated:
> 
> Should I laugh or cry?
 Both?
> > So for my use case, it's important to be able to statically
> > compile modules into the program. It's less important to
> > have a "base library" or "base object system" because what
> > Lua provides is enough (or rather, I have to supply quite a bit,
> > but it's all custom coding anyway).
> 
> Do you think every line of what you supply needs to be custom? Are you 
> really using absolutely no standard utility functions? no reusable 
> abstractions? generic functions? If not, then colour me surprised. 
 I found only once instance where I use what could be considered a
"standard utility function" and that's a version of split() I wrote. But
other than that, no real abstrations, no generic functions (what do you mean
by "generic" functions anyway?).
 Okay, granted, some code I wrote *could* be replaced with luasocket,
lposix and any number of syslog modules, but 
	a) luasocket does not support IPv6 (not an issue yet at work, but I
	wanted more experience with IPv6 anyway)
	b) there's some overlap between luasocket and lposix, in that both
	deal with file descriptors 
	c) I hated all the existing syslog modules
 Good thing I did write my own [1][2], as it wasn't that much of an issue
to build both shared and static versions of the C-based modules (even so,
the resulting executable of my "Kitchen Sink Lua" is around 3.5M on Linux).
> I had to write a bunch of abstractions just to get started. Sure, they
> were light weight and simple, but they were still necessary to make the
> code readable.
 I guess I just haven't had a need for much abstractions. 
 -spc (And all abstractions leak anyway ... )
[1]	https://github.com/spc476/lua-conmanorg
[2]	I guess you could call this my "standard library" of code.
- References:
- Upstream is not the last word (was Re: [ANN] Lua 5.1.5 (rc1) now	available), Jay Carlson
 
- Re: Upstream is not the last word (was Re: [ANN] Lua 5.1.5 (rc1)	now available), Dirk Laurie
 
- Re: Upstream is not the last word (was Re: [ANN] Lua 5.1.5 (rc1)	now available), Jon Akhtar
 
- Re: Upstream is not the last word (was Re: [ANN] Lua 5.1.5 (rc1)	now available), Alex Queiroz
 
- Re: Upstream is not the last word (was Re: [ANN] Lua 5.1.5 (rc1) now available), KHMan
 
- Re: Upstream is not the last word (was Re: [ANN] Lua 5.1.5 (rc1)	now available), Jay Carlson
 
- Re: Upstream is not the last word (was Re: [ANN] Lua 5.1.5 (rc1)	now available), Axel Kittenberger
 
- Re: Upstream is not the last word (was Re: [ANN] Lua 5.1.5 (rc1) now available), Ross Bencina
 
- Re: Upstream is not the last word (was Re: [ANN] Lua 5.1.5 (rc1)	now available), Sean Conner
 
- Re: Upstream is not the last word (was Re: [ANN] Lua 5.1.5 (rc1) now available), Ross Bencina