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re: dns/ppp problem lost your original post, but seems to me you are trying to run a caching nameserver (bind serves localhost only). if this is the case then forcing bind to listen to localhost (127.0.0.1) only could solve the "ordering" problem--and then configuring the resolver at /etc/resolv.conf to point to 127.0.0.1....not that i tried that. Just an idea anyway. jondz _________________________________________________________________________ Philadelphia Linux Users Group -- http://www.phillylinux.org Announcements - http://lists.netisland.net/mailman/listinfo/plug-announce General Discussion -- http://lists.netisland.net/mailman/listinfo/plug