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> Have you looked at Suse 8.0? Much more polished than debian, while I have heard the word 'polished' before, but I honestly don't know what it means when referring to distros. I think it might me guified. > including very new stuff (like KDE 3). I use woody on my desktop, but > the updates often break things (Galeon a couple of weeks ago when a new > mozilla was added, apparently without checking), and potato is very out > of date for desktop app stuff (I use it on some servers). Anyway, debian _does_ have kde3, it's not going into woody, though, as kde3 is bleeding edge ---fwd--- deb http://kde3.geniussystems.net/debian / apt-get install arts kdelibs kdebase (etc...) currently you must purge all kde222 debs first (i will fix this for final) apt-get remove --purge kdelibs3 apt-get remove --purge libarts NEVER use dpkg --force-* it will most likely permanently break your system requiring a full reinstall official liquid http://arachni.kiwi.uni-hamburg.de/~harlekin/debs/ ia64 debs http://debian.litux.org/debian/unstable/kde3/binary-ia64/ Fred ______________________________________________________________________ Philadelphia Linux Users Group - http://www.phillylinux.org Announcements-http://lists.phillylinux.org/mail/listinfo/plug-announce General Discussion - http://lists.phillylinux.org/mail/listinfo/plug