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So these two are to be used in conjunction with each other? They compliment each other? I got the IPchains down.. Squid I have never messed with but I will give it a shot. Now it refers to both local and remote applications, both on the net and on a lan? I will do some reading on it as well.... Thanks Anthony ______________________________________________________________________ Philadelphia Linux Users Group - http://www.phillylinux.org Announcements - http://lists.phillylinux.org/mail/listinfo/plug-announce General Discussion - http://lists.phillylinux.org/mail/listinfo/plug