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I'm sorry Kurt... Actually, I'd rather hear about crypto, frankly. I simply suggested this topic because there seemed to be numerous questions on the basics, and I wanted to get them cleared up. I'll happily concede my topic in favor of yours, besides, I was thinking, how will we do an install fest in 2 hours? Vale _______________________________________________ Plug maillist - Plug@lists.nothinbut.net http://lists.nothinbut.net/mail/listinfo/plug