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Old 5th June 2004, 13:30 #1 | Link
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ffmpeg2theora
ok, i now had the time to play around a little bit with the ffmpeg2theora tool
its basically the theora reference encoder (still very young and untuned), combined with ffmpeg, which means it allows all formats as inputs, which ffmpeg handles too (list) and outputs to spec compliant .ogg files

for encoding i used the following commandline (copy it to a *.txt file, rename the file to *.bat and execute it)
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ffmpeg2theora.exe -o theora_test.ogg --croptop 82 --cropbottom 78 --cropleft 2 --cropright 2 -x 640 -y 256 -v 6 "c:\path to\vts_02_5.vob"
main options:
--output,-o: alternative output
--format,-f: specify input format
--width,-x: scale to given size
--height,-y: scale to given size
--crop[top|bottom|left|right]: crop input before resizing
--deinterlace,-d [off|on]: en/disable deinterlace (enabled by default right now)
--videoquality,-v [0 to 10]: encoding quality for video (variable bitrate/1pass - quality based/in my test -v 6 resulted in ~750kbps)
--audioquality,-a [-1 to 10]: encoding quality for audio
--samplerate,-H: set output samplerate in Hz
--nosound: disable the sound from input
--debug: output some more information during encoding

if you try it out, you will see that the encoder is still very basic and untuned (well, the format is some weeks old), but it already offers a nice output (still has a way to go to keep up with xvid)
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Re: ffmpeg2theora
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if you try it out, you will see that the encoder is still very basic and untuned (well, the format is some days old), but it already offers a nice output (tough not comparable to xvid or so of course)
But will hopefully get there.
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Hehe, with quality -v 85 it looks very good. Unfortunately, I couldn't play the file in Windows, so I re-compiled MPlayer under Linux agains theora libs, I little bit unstable, but nice picture.

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Hehe, with quality -v 85 it looks very good. Unfortunately, I couldn't play the file in Windows
you can play it with the dshow filter set from illiminable (as mentioned in the theora sticky)
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Somehow this didn't work for me, but I just tried it a few minutes. MPC does not start playing and if I try to seek in the file, it crashes immediately. Internal ogg splitter was of course disabled. System was Win2K SP4 with DirectX 9b.

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Off-topic: Can someone reach vorbis.com, theora.org or xiph.org the last days, it seems the DNS entries are not resolved for me...?
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on the illiminable homepage it says:
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Known issues:
Seeking in theora occasionally seg faults
and yes, i also cant reach the xiph hps
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Off-topic: Can someone reach vorbis.com, theora.org or xiph.org the last days, it seems the DNS entries are not resolved for me...?
Their old server is dying (or: has died now). A new server was bought, but itエs power-supply unit is broken. They are still waiting for a replacement AFAIK.
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I hope they get a replacement. With the freezing of the theora bitstream I think there are enough people who start getting interested in that format.

Thanks for the supplied info.

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new version released (0.8)

- use ffmpeg aspect ration if possible
- normalize quality options to 0-10
- fix skipping issues with a/v sync

doesnt seem as if cropping is possible now
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I've tested ver 0.10 with win2000 SP4.But It doesn't work for me.
I've tested three clips(DivX and Mpeg1),but all Ogg theora files made by ffmpeg2theora doesn't synchronize.
Audios are OK but Videos are moving very slow.
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It is also worth noting that the Ogg Theora files produced by the new Illiminable DirectShow filters are not decodeable by FFDshow.
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It is also worth noting that the Ogg Theora files produced by the new Illiminable DirectShow filters are not decodeable by FFDshow.
when connected to the illiminable splitter/parser?
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a new version of ffmpeg2theora has been released!

changelog since 0.8:

0.10.2 2004年07月17日
- add cropping support
- remove support for ffmpeg<0.4.9-pre1
- change configure.ac and Makefile.am to better build with
mingw32

0.10.1 2004年07月15日 21:03:15
- fix problems with mpeg files using ffmpeg from cvs or versions
higher than 0.4.8.
- remove --with-ffmpegcvs and detect changes by LIBAVCODEC_BUILD

0.10 2004年07月10日 18:14:15
- write eos at the end of the file.
- fix memleak due to not enough calls of ogg_stream_pageout

0.9 2004年07月04日 13:14:15
- add presets
- add more comandline options


i updated the sample commandline in the first post in this thread
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when connected to the illiminable splitter/parser?
Yes.
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Could someone make a GUI for this program?
How is the quanlity of this format?
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the reference theora encoder's quality doesnt reach xvid or x264, but i wouldnt say that the quality sucks hard
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2005年08月31日 new version released - 0.15

changelog:
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* ti.dropframes_p = 0 so we do not loos half of the frames.
* also increase keyframe interval for better search support.
* this time the windows build als supports ac3 decoding again.

btw, I've a question : Is there a way to feed as input a list file in this tool ? (i.e a simple text file with the paths of the different input files).
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btw, I've a question : Is there a way to feed as input a list file in this tool ? (i.e a simple text file with the paths of the different input files).
From ffmpg2theora output when stated with --help
Code:
 Examples:
	ffmpeg2theora videoclip.avi (will write output to videoclip.avi.ogg)
	cat something.dv | ffmpeg2theora -f dv -o output.ogg -
	Live encoding from a DV camcorder (needs a fast machine)
	dvgrab - | ffmpeg2theora -f dv -x 352 -y 288 -o output.ogg -
	Live encoding and streaming to icecast server:
	 dvgrab --format raw - | \
	 ffmpeg2theora -f dv -x 160 -y 128 -o /dev/stdout - | \
	 oggfwd iccast2server 8000 password /theora.ogg
So under linux/unix, you can try to feed several souces via pipe to ffmpeg, but you will get the output i just one file. From Akupenguins problems when porting avs2yuv to win32 I know, that piping on win32 can have flaws. So i recomend a classic batch file for this kind of porpose

Code:
:: Batch encoding of several files.
ffmpeg2theora avi1.mpg
ffmpeg2theora avi2.avi
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So i recomend a classic batch file for this kind of porpose
Yep...I think it's the best only solution for the moment.
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hm a nice alternative for virtualdub lover is also ffdshow which can output spec compliant theora in .ogg (yeah .ogg, not .ogm) from inside its interface
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