For some reason the tar.gz files that I try to get off of http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=27249 , they seem to be corrupt or something. I've tried using both tar from cygwin or my windows unzipper( powerarchiver 2001 which i usually use to unzip tar.gz with success ). I was wondering if it is something with my files, like a problem with the download, or is it a problem on their side. ~ Michael Chavez, Resident Confused Newbie -- Want to unsubscribe from this list? Check out: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple