[Q:] Has Mail Delivery Changed? Hello? Look at the Headers!

Christopher Faylor cgf@cygnus.com
Tue Feb 9 09:33:00 GMT 1999


The list was changed to add the Sender field yesterday.
This whole exchange has taken place via mail messages that
had Sender: in the header.
I did send out an announcement to each individual on the list
and to the mailing list as a while. I'm not sure how anyone
could have fallen through the cracks but I expect that everyone
will become painfully aware of the new mailing list software in
a month or so when mail to gnu-win32@cygnus.com fails.
cgf
On Tue, Feb 09, 1999 at 09:07:02AM -0600, Oelke, Dan wrote:
>A list management program must put in a Sender field to 
>really be RFC-822 compliant. And, mail delivery systems 
>must use that field for handling bounces. Unfortunately, 
>CCmail and Exchange gateways are very often do not use
>the Sender field. <sigh> but that is another whole battle.
>>Can someone at cygnus who has control over the new
>list management software please configure it to put in 
>a Sender: field. If nothing else, a formail filter can put
>one in for you quite nicely, but I am guessing that this 
>new software package you are using should be able to 
>do it. If you want - I can quote page and section of 822
>that requires it. God knows I've done that to enough 
>postmasters for CCmail systems ;-)
>>As for Outlook scanning the entire header - not Outlook 97
>that I am using on NT. It's filtering capabilities suck. 
>I really need to find me a Unix home on the net someplace
>that I can connect via IMAP to.......
>>Thanks,
>Dan
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>> From:	David M. Smith [SMTP:david.smith@home-free.demon.co.uk]
>> Sent:	Tuesday, February 09, 1999 7:02 AM
>> To:	gnu-win32@cygnus.com
>> Subject:	Re: [Q:] Has Mail Delivery Changed?
>>>> In article < 36C01829.DD20B1F2@upf.es >, Walter Garcia-Fontes
>> <wgarcia@upf.es> writes
>> >The change is of course due to the fact that they have changed the
>> >listserver. I check now for "sourceware.cygnus.com" in the To: and
>> CC:
>> >fields and filter the mail as well as before (using procmail). You
>> still
>> >have to keep your old rules since some people keep sending to
>> >gnu-win32@cygnus.com (also check this in To: and CC:).
>> >
>> >Including a Sender: field may be useful, though, so if people at
>> Cygnus
>> >could program the listserver to include a Sender: or Owner: field,
>> >filtering the mail would be easier.
>>>> Someone kindly forwarded me the announcement that this was going to
>> happen. I looked through my list database and I had not received it
>> directly! I have not attached it as I am sure most of you will have
>> seen it.
>>>> The new list server does seem to put "Sender:" in the header of some
>> messages, but I am definitely getting stuff without it. As I said
>> these
>> messages seem to have custom aliases in the "CC:" field. I have
>> modified my rules to suit the new list software and will keep
>> monitoring
>> the stray ones for a suitable pattern.
>>>> Thanks for the help.
>>>> Regards,
>> David
>> -- 
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