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From: Norbert N. <Nor...@gm...> - 2007年06月30日 22:30:14
Hi there,
I just checked in some major reorganization work in __init__.py
The main intention was to move the list of option defaults to a separate
file 'rcdefaults.py' that could be imported from setup.py to access the
settings with minimal dependencies on the remaining code.
To do so, I had to untangle a number of unnessessary dependancies within
__init__.py. I hope, the behavior of the code
should not have changed in the course of doing so. In case problems
arise, please contact me directly, I don't know
how closely I can follow the mailing list.
I hope that from this starting point, future maintenance of the option
settings will be somewhat easier.
Greetings,
Norbert
From: John H. <jd...@gm...> - 2007年06月30日 22:38:32
On 6/30/07, Norbert Nemec <Nor...@gm...> wrote:
> Hi there,
>
> I just checked in some major reorganization work in __init__.py
>
> The main intention was to move the list of option defaults to a separate
> file 'rcdefaults.py' that could be imported from setup.py to access the
> settings with minimal dependencies on the remaining code.
I haven't tested this but I did take a brief look at it and I think
your cleaning and organizing is useful. I think we have a naming
problem though -- this __init__ module defines an rcdefaults function,
which is likely to cause confusion with the new rcdefaults module.
Eg,
from matplotlib import rcdefaults
will be ambiguous. You may want to consider a new name.
DH
From: Norbert N. <Nor...@gm...> - 2007年07月01日 06:23:16
Hmm - let me think.... We already have
 rc
 rcParams
 rc_params
 rcdefaults
 rcParamDefaults
 defaultParams
in the main module of maplotlib
How about calling the new module 'rcdefaultparams.py', simply to make
the confusion complete and because I really feel that no other name
would fit the current "naming scheme" better... ;-)
Greetings,
Norbert
John Hunter wrote:
> On 6/30/07, Norbert Nemec <Nor...@gm...> wrote:
> 
>> Hi there,
>>
>> I just checked in some major reorganization work in __init__.py
>>
>> The main intention was to move the list of option defaults to a separate
>> file 'rcdefaults.py' that could be imported from setup.py to access the
>> settings with minimal dependencies on the remaining code.
>> 
>
> I haven't tested this but I did take a brief look at it and I think
> your cleaning and organizing is useful. I think we have a naming
> problem though -- this __init__ module defines an rcdefaults function,
> which is likely to cause confusion with the new rcdefaults module.
> Eg,
>
> >from matplotlib import rcdefaults
>
> will be ambiguous. You may want to consider a new name.
>
> DH
>
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From: Eric F. <ef...@ha...> - 2007年07月01日 07:49:13
Norbert Nemec wrote:
> Hmm - let me think.... We already have
> rc
> rcParams
> rc_params
> rcdefaults
> rcParamDefaults
> defaultParams
> in the main module of maplotlib
> 
> How about calling the new module 'rcdefaultparams.py', simply to make
> the confusion complete and because I really feel that no other name
> would fit the current "naming scheme" better... ;-)
Yes, it is confusing, there are too many similar names. I suspect some 
are used infrequently enough that we could change them without too much 
pain.
But the new module is really two things: 1) rc utilities (mainly 
validation facilities) and 2) a set of default values. If these are 
kept together the module could be called "rc_init.py" because everything 
is mainly used for rc initialization, although there are things still in 
mpl's __init__.py that are also part of the rc initialization. Or it 
could be called "rc_utils.py" or "rcsetup.py". I would prefer any of 
these to rcdefaultparams.py.
Furthermore, even after factoring out the rc things as you have done the 
mpl namespace is badly cluttered with things like checkdep_dvipng, 
(which is actually part of the rc validation, so maybe it should be in 
your new module) so still more refactoring and/or renaming might be in 
order. I can imagine a class being used to good effect to organize the 
whole business of rc handling.
One more miscellaneous thought: shouldn't mpl.rc() be using the 
validation functions instead of simply stuffing inputs into rcParams?
I suppose this brings us back to the old "traits, properties, or 
neither" question. But incremental improvements such as the one you 
have made are still helpful.
Eric
> 
> Greetings,
> Norbert
> 
> 
> 
> John Hunter wrote:
>> On 6/30/07, Norbert Nemec <Nor...@gm...> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi there,
>>>
>>> I just checked in some major reorganization work in __init__.py
>>>
>>> The main intention was to move the list of option defaults to a separate
>>> file 'rcdefaults.py' that could be imported from setup.py to access the
>>> settings with minimal dependencies on the remaining code.
>>> 
>> I haven't tested this but I did take a brief look at it and I think
>> your cleaning and organizing is useful. I think we have a naming
>> problem though -- this __init__ module defines an rcdefaults function,
>> which is likely to cause confusion with the new rcdefaults module.
>> Eg,
>>
>> >from matplotlib import rcdefaults
>>
>> will be ambiguous. You may want to consider a new name.
>>
>> DH
>>
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From: Norbert N. <Nor...@gm...> - 2007年07月05日 12:48:19
I just tried to commit a rename of 'rcdefaults.py' to 'rcsetup.py', but
I got an error:
-------------
...$ svn commit -m"renamed rcdefaults.py to rccsetup.py to avoid conflict"
Sending matplotlib/__init__.py
Deleting matplotlib/rcdefaults.py
Adding matplotlib/rcsetup.py
svn: Commit failed (details follow):
svn: COPY of rcsetup.py: 403 Forbidden (https://svn.sourceforge.net)
-------------
If anybody knows what the reason for this might be, please let me know...
Greetings,
Norbert
Eric Firing wrote:
> Norbert Nemec wrote:
> 
>> Hmm - let me think.... We already have
>> rc
>> rcParams
>> rc_params
>> rcdefaults
>> rcParamDefaults
>> defaultParams
>> in the main module of maplotlib
>>
>> How about calling the new module 'rcdefaultparams.py', simply to make
>> the confusion complete and because I really feel that no other name
>> would fit the current "naming scheme" better... ;-)
>> 
>
> Yes, it is confusing, there are too many similar names. I suspect some 
> are used infrequently enough that we could change them without too much 
> pain.
>
> But the new module is really two things: 1) rc utilities (mainly 
> validation facilities) and 2) a set of default values. If these are 
> kept together the module could be called "rc_init.py" because everything 
> is mainly used for rc initialization, although there are things still in 
> mpl's __init__.py that are also part of the rc initialization. Or it 
> could be called "rc_utils.py" or "rcsetup.py". I would prefer any of 
> these to rcdefaultparams.py.
>
> Furthermore, even after factoring out the rc things as you have done the 
> mpl namespace is badly cluttered with things like checkdep_dvipng, 
> (which is actually part of the rc validation, so maybe it should be in 
> your new module) so still more refactoring and/or renaming might be in 
> order. I can imagine a class being used to good effect to organize the 
> whole business of rc handling.
>
> One more miscellaneous thought: shouldn't mpl.rc() be using the 
> validation functions instead of simply stuffing inputs into rcParams?
>
> I suppose this brings us back to the old "traits, properties, or 
> neither" question. But incremental improvements such as the one you 
> have made are still helpful.
>
> Eric
> 
>> Greetings,
>> Norbert
>>
>>
>>
>> John Hunter wrote:
>> 
>>> On 6/30/07, Norbert Nemec <Nor...@gm...> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> Hi there,
>>>>
>>>> I just checked in some major reorganization work in __init__.py
>>>>
>>>> The main intention was to move the list of option defaults to a separate
>>>> file 'rcdefaults.py' that could be imported from setup.py to access the
>>>> settings with minimal dependencies on the remaining code.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> I haven't tested this but I did take a brief look at it and I think
>>> your cleaning and organizing is useful. I think we have a naming
>>> problem though -- this __init__ module defines an rcdefaults function,
>>> which is likely to cause confusion with the new rcdefaults module.
>>> Eg,
>>>
>>> >from matplotlib import rcdefaults
>>>
>>> will be ambiguous. You may want to consider a new name.
>>>
>>> DH
>>>
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From: Eric F. <ef...@ha...> - 2007年07月02日 18:54:25
Norbert,
Revision 3445 has some very small changes to fix problems resulting from 
your reorganization. The questions of module and other naming are still 
open.
Eric
From: Eric F. <ef...@ha...> - 2007年07月06日 02:39:53
Norbert,
I just did the rename, and it worked:
efiring@manini:~/programs/py/mpl/matplotlib_units$ svn move 
lib/matplotlib/rcdefaults.py lib/matplotlib/rcsetup.py
A lib/matplotlib/rcsetup.py
D lib/matplotlib/rcdefaults.py
efiring@manini:~/programs/py/mpl/matplotlib_units$ svn status
? CXX.new
? svn-commit.2.tmp
? test.png
? svn-commit.tmp
? unit/legend_unit.png
? lib/svn-commit.tmp
D lib/matplotlib/rcdefaults.py
A + lib/matplotlib/rcsetup.py
? examples/units/basic_units.pyc
efiring@manini:~/programs/py/mpl/matplotlib_units$ svn commit
Zed V1.0.3 by Sandro Serafini (c) 1997/98
Loading /home/efiring/.zedxrc...
Reading /home/efiring/myzed.cfg...
Resuming /home/efiring/.zedxrc...
Deleting lib/matplotlib/rcdefaults.py
Adding lib/matplotlib/rcsetup.py
Committed revision 3465.
I also changed __init__.py to import rcsetup in a revision that followed 
by about 2 minutes--so I hope no one did an svn update during that interval.
I have no idea what cause your svn commit failure.
Eric
Norbert Nemec wrote:
> I just tried to commit a rename of 'rcdefaults.py' to 'rcsetup.py', but
> I got an error:
> 
> -------------
> ...$ svn commit -m"renamed rcdefaults.py to rccsetup.py to avoid conflict"
> Sending matplotlib/__init__.py
> Deleting matplotlib/rcdefaults.py
> Adding matplotlib/rcsetup.py
> svn: Commit failed (details follow):
> svn: COPY of rcsetup.py: 403 Forbidden (https://svn.sourceforge.net)
> -------------
> 
> If anybody knows what the reason for this might be, please let me know...
> 
> Greetings,
> Norbert
> 
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