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From: Chris B. <Chr...@no...> - 2009年02月24日 17:56:17
Hi all,
I just ran into an issue with py2exe -- my app failed because various 
numpy sub-packages weren't included. However, I wasn't using them. But 
it failed because numerix imports them, and they weren't included 
because it imports them with __import__
Anyway, I can work around this, but it made me wonder: is it time to 
retire numerix? We all should be using numpy anyway.
note that the docstring is out of date, too:
"""
1. The value of numerix in matplotlibrc: either Numeric or numarray
2. If none of the above is done, the default array package is Numeric.
 Because the matplotlibrc always provides *some* value for numerix
 (it has it's own system of default values), this default is most
 likely never used.
To summarize: the commandline is examined first, the rc file second,
and the default array package is Numeric.
"""
-Chris
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From: Eric F. <ef...@ha...> - 2009年02月24日 19:29:51
Chris Barker wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> I just ran into an issue with py2exe -- my app failed because various 
> numpy sub-packages weren't included. However, I wasn't using them. But 
> it failed because numerix imports them, and they weren't included 
> because it imports them with __import__
> 
> Anyway, I can work around this, but it made me wonder: is it time to 
> retire numerix? We all should be using numpy anyway.
Why was numerix getting imported? Is this inherent in py2exe--that it 
imports all subpackages of a base, if you use that base (matplotlib)?
Numerix is there only for the convenience of anyone who has code that 
depends on it; it is completely unused in matplotlib itself. I would be 
happy get it out of matplotlib, or phase it out if necessary. I don't 
think it should be left there forever.
Eric
> 
> note that the docstring is out of date, too:
> 
> """
> 1. The value of numerix in matplotlibrc: either Numeric or numarray
> 
> 2. If none of the above is done, the default array package is Numeric.
> Because the matplotlibrc always provides *some* value for numerix
> (it has it's own system of default values), this default is most
> likely never used.
> 
> To summarize: the commandline is examined first, the rc file second,
> and the default array package is Numeric.
> """
> 
> -Chris
> 
> 
> 
> 
From: Christopher B. <Chr...@no...> - 2009年02月24日 19:44:27
Eric Firing wrote:
> Why was numerix getting imported?
Good question -- I just figured MPL was doing it!
> Is this inherent in py2exe--that it 
> imports all subpackages of a base, if you use that base (matplotlib)?
nope -- it imports the regular old python way --just with a different 
sys.path
I'll poke into it a bit more, now that I know it shouldn't be doing it.
> Numerix is there only for the convenience of anyone who has code that 
> depends on it; it is completely unused in matplotlib itself.
That's what I was hoping.
 > I would be
> happy get it out of matplotlib, or phase it out if necessary. I don't 
> think it should be left there forever.
I agree.
- Chris
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From: John H. <jd...@gm...> - 2009年02月24日 20:48:50
On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 1:44 PM, Christopher Barker
<Chr...@no...> wrote:
>> happy get it out of matplotlib, or phase it out if necessary. I don't
>> think it should be left there forever.
I think it can be removed. It lives on the maintenance branch 0.91.
JDH
From: Darren D. <dsd...@gm...> - 2009年02月24日 20:58:49
On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 3:48 PM, John Hunter <jd...@gm...> wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 1:44 PM, Christopher Barker
> <Chr...@no...> wrote:
>
> >> happy get it out of matplotlib, or phase it out if necessary. I don't
> >> think it should be left there forever.
>
> I think it can be removed. It lives on the maintenance branch 0.91.
>
huzzah
From: Eric F. <ef...@ha...> - 2009年02月24日 21:19:31
John Hunter wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 1:44 PM, Christopher Barker
> <Chr...@no...> wrote:
> 
>>> happy get it out of matplotlib, or phase it out if necessary. I don't
>>> think it should be left there forever.
> 
> I think it can be removed. It lives on the maintenance branch 0.91.
Good point. I am in the process of removing it from the trunk. I 
should be doing this slightly differently, with a single commit, but I 
got ahead of myself, so it will take more than one. Sorry.
Eric
> 
> JDH
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From: Eric F. <ef...@ha...> - 2009年02月24日 23:10:51
Chris Barker wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> I just ran into an issue with py2exe -- my app failed because various 
> numpy sub-packages weren't included. However, I wasn't using them. But 
> it failed because numerix imports them, and they weren't included 
> because it imports them with __import__
> 
> Anyway, I can work around this, but it made me wonder: is it time to 
> retire numerix? We all should be using numpy anyway.
It has been purged from the svn trunk. Now, if you can run your app 
after building from svn, it should become obvious where the numerix 
import was coming from, assuming it was in your app or in some package 
it imports.
Eric
From: Eric F. <ef...@ha...> - 2009年02月24日 22:57:28
Christopher Barker wrote:
> Eric Firing wrote:
>> It has been purged from the svn trunk.
> 
> Thanks. Has it been deprecated somehow? I don't want folks' code to 
> break too fast!
No, I guess I was in a dangerous mood--I just ripped it out. I could 
put it back with a deprecation if necessary--is it? The only nod to 
deprecation at present is that a matplotlibrc file with a numerix entry 
will trigger a warning instead of bombing.
It is still in the 0.98.5 maintenance branch, which I presume will be 
the source of the next release. One option would be to put a 
deprecation warning there, but leave the trunk as-is.
What we probably *should* have done was to put a deprecation warning in 
back when 0.98 was first released.
Eric
> 
> 
>> Now, if you can run your app after building from svn,
> 
> Well, I'm not set up to build on Windows...
> 
>> it should become obvious where the numerix import was coming from
> 
> Found it: it was wxmpl. I'm going to send a patch to Ken.
> 
> -Chris
> 
> 
> 
> 
From: Christopher B. <Chr...@no...> - 2009年02月24日 23:26:25
Eric Firing wrote:
> It has been purged from the svn trunk.
Thanks. Has it been deprecated somehow? I don't want folks' code to 
break too fast!
> Now, if you can run your app 
> after building from svn,
Well, I'm not set up to build on Windows...
> it should become obvious where the numerix 
> import was coming from
Found it: it was wxmpl. I'm going to send a patch to Ken.
-Chris
-- 
Christopher Barker, Ph.D.
Oceanographer
Emergency Response Division
NOAA/NOS/OR&R (206) 526-6959 voice
7600 Sand Point Way NE (206) 526-6329 fax
Seattle, WA 98115 (206) 526-6317 main reception
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From: Christopher B. <Chr...@no...> - 2009年02月24日 23:27:14
Attachments: wxmpl-1.3.1-chb.zip
Ken,
I've found Numerix used in wxmpl, but it's been deprecated, so I've 
replaced all the calls with direct numpy calls. However, I can't pretend 
that I've tested well at all -- all I know is that it's working for me. 
In particular, I haven't tested plotit beyond making sure it complies.
I've enclosed a zip archive with my modifications. If you have it in SVN 
somewhere I could give you a diff -- just let me know if I can help further.
Also, I see this a lot in your plotit code:
if not isinstance(x, (np.ndarray, np.ma.masked_array)):
(though you had Numerix equivalent)
What I like to do instead is call:
try:
 x = asarray(x, dtype=np.float)
except ValueError:
 raise your error here...
(and maybe a reshape call, too, to make sure it can be converted into 
that shape)
I usually don't care if I'm getting an array, as long as it can be 
turned into one...
If you do want to check the type, np.ma is a subclass of ndarray, so:
isinstance(x, np.ndarray)
should do it. That's what I've put in the code for now.
-Chris
-- 
Christopher Barker, Ph.D.
Oceanographer
Emergency Response Division
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From: Eric F. <ef...@ha...> - 2009年02月25日 07:39:47
Christopher Barker wrote:
> Eric Firing wrote:
>> It has been purged from the svn trunk.
> 
> Thanks. Has it been deprecated somehow? I don't want folks' code to 
> break too fast!
I have restored a stripped-down numpy-only version of numerix, with a 
prominent deprecation warning.
Eric
> 
> 
>> Now, if you can run your app after building from svn,
> 
> Well, I'm not set up to build on Windows...
> 
>> it should become obvious where the numerix import was coming from
> 
> Found it: it was wxmpl. I'm going to send a patch to Ken.
> 
> -Chris
> 
> 
> 
> 
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