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From: Paul K. <pki...@ni...> - 2007年08月30日 17:56:09
Hi,
It would be great to be able to display math markup in other parts of my
application, such as labels, tables, lists and menus. Has anyone ever
tried doing this for wx or gtk?
Thanks in advance,
	- Paul
From: Michael D. <md...@st...> - 2007年08月30日 18:29:17
Cool idea. I don't know if anyone has tried this. I assume you'd want 
to get something that you could pass to wx.ImageFromBuffer() (and the 
equivalent in Gtk). It would just be a matter of or'ing together all of 
the greyscale ft2font buffers (which aren't currently exposed to Python) 
and converting them to an RGB buffer and Alpha buffer. Not that 
difficult, but it would require some additional C routines in ft2font.cpp.
(And long term, as cool as matplotlib is, it would be nice to refactor 
this out as a separate library for apps that don't do any plotting...)
Cheers,
Mike
Paul Kienzle wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> It would be great to be able to display math markup in other parts of my
> application, such as labels, tables, lists and menus. Has anyone ever
> tried doing this for wx or gtk?
> 
> Thanks in advance,
> 
> 	- Paul
> 
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From: John H. <jd...@gm...> - 2007年08月30日 18:56:43
On 8/30/07, Michael Droettboom <md...@st...> wrote:
> (And long term, as cool as matplotlib is, it would be nice to refactor
> this out as a separate library for apps that don't do any plotting...)
I agree, the mathtext stuff is becoming really good, and will be
really good when we have a good set of fonts to work with. I can see
it being useful in lots of contexts, and more users in other contexts
will make it more useful for us down the road.
JDH
From: Paul K. <pki...@ni...> - 2007年08月30日 21:00:35
On Thu, Aug 30, 2007 at 01:56:36PM -0500, John Hunter wrote:
> On 8/30/07, Michael Droettboom <md...@st...> wrote:
> 
> > (And long term, as cool as matplotlib is, it would be nice to refactor
> > this out as a separate library for apps that don't do any plotting...)
> 
> I agree, the mathtext stuff is becoming really good, and will be
> really good when we have a good set of fonts to work with. I can see
> it being useful in lots of contexts, and more users in other contexts
> will make it more useful for us down the road.
The challenge is to separate the backends from matplotlib.
If mathtext takes over all of the font handling then matplotlib won't need
to include freetype. If matplotlib handles bitmap rotation, then mathtext
won't need to include agg. Then mathtext need only take the format string
and return a bounding box, a bitmap, or the PDF/PS/SVG instructions
necessary to render the text.
I don't know if PDF/PS/SVG can rotate the coordinate system prior to
rendering. If not, then rotation will need to be moved into mathtext
as well.
	- Paul
From: Christopher B. <Chr...@no...> - 2007年08月30日 20:51:15
Paul Kienzle wrote:
> It would be great to be able to display math markup in other parts of my
> application, such as labels, tables, lists and menus. Has anyone ever
> tried doing this for wx or gtk?
It's worth a post to the wxPython-users list -- it gets talked about now 
and again.
It shouldn't be too hard to use the ustex stuff from MPL -- doesn't that 
use TeX, etc to make a png or something? If so, it could be stuck on a 
wx.widget easily.
Michael Droettboom wrote:
> (And long term, as cool as matplotlib is, it would be nice to refactor 
> this out as a separate library for apps that don't do any plotting...)
Yes, that would be great -- a kind of mini-TeX that's embeddable. 
Another plus to that is you'd expand the user base, and with that 
hopefully the developer base, so it could get fuller featured faster.
How tied in with MPL is the code? Could it just be it's own module?
-Chris
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From: Michael D. <md...@st...> - 2007年08月31日 19:29:00
There is now preliminary support for getting a mathtext bitmap to 
transfer to a GUI widget in SVN, along with a toy wxPython example in 
examples/mathtext_wx.py. I've only tested this on 
Linux/wxGTK2/wxPython-2.8. I'd appreciate help with testing (and 
screenshots) on any other platforms you may care about.
Gtk+ and Qt should also be theoretically possible. Tk will be more 
difficult, because a) it doesn't support an alpha channel (which would 
mainly be a quality problem), and b) you have to use the _tkagg C++ 
bridge to get the image data into a widget.
Be aware that the API for this may change due to my planned 
mathtext/backend communication refactoring. If you do plan on relying 
on this functionality, I recommend wrapping it in a function (like 
mathtext_to_wxbitmap in the example) so any future changes will be 
localized.
Cheers,
Mike
Michael Droettboom wrote:
> Cool idea. I don't know if anyone has tried this. I assume you'd want 
> to get something that you could pass to wx.ImageFromBuffer() (and the 
> equivalent in Gtk). It would just be a matter of or'ing together all of 
> the greyscale ft2font buffers (which aren't currently exposed to Python) 
> and converting them to an RGB buffer and Alpha buffer. Not that 
> difficult, but it would require some additional C routines in ft2font.cpp.
> 
> (And long term, as cool as matplotlib is, it would be nice to refactor 
> this out as a separate library for apps that don't do any plotting...)
> 
> Cheers,
> Mike
> 
> Paul Kienzle wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> It would be great to be able to display math markup in other parts of my
>> application, such as labels, tables, lists and menus. Has anyone ever
>> tried doing this for wx or gtk?
>>
>> Thanks in advance,
>>
>> 	- Paul
>>
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From: Michael D. <md...@st...> - 2007年08月31日 19:32:19
I should also mention my mathtext_wx.py example reveals a [possible] bug 
in wxPython-2.8 and/or the underlying Gtk. When you put a bitmap on a 
menu item, the *height* of the menu item is determined by the *width* of 
the bitmap.
And placing bitmaps in menu items reportedly doesn't work at all on 
wxCocoa. -- so maybe it's best to stay away from that altogether.
Cheers,
Mike
Michael Droettboom wrote:
> There is now preliminary support for getting a mathtext bitmap to 
> transfer to a GUI widget in SVN, along with a toy wxPython example in 
> examples/mathtext_wx.py. I've only tested this on 
> Linux/wxGTK2/wxPython-2.8. I'd appreciate help with testing (and 
> screenshots) on any other platforms you may care about.
> 
> Gtk+ and Qt should also be theoretically possible. Tk will be more 
> difficult, because a) it doesn't support an alpha channel (which would 
> mainly be a quality problem), and b) you have to use the _tkagg C++ 
> bridge to get the image data into a widget.
> 
> Be aware that the API for this may change due to my planned 
> mathtext/backend communication refactoring. If you do plan on relying 
> on this functionality, I recommend wrapping it in a function (like 
> mathtext_to_wxbitmap in the example) so any future changes will be 
> localized.
> 
> Cheers,
> Mike
> 
> Michael Droettboom wrote:
>> Cool idea. I don't know if anyone has tried this. I assume you'd 
>> want to get something that you could pass to wx.ImageFromBuffer() (and 
>> the equivalent in Gtk). It would just be a matter of or'ing together 
>> all of the greyscale ft2font buffers (which aren't currently exposed 
>> to Python) and converting them to an RGB buffer and Alpha buffer. Not 
>> that difficult, but it would require some additional C routines in 
>> ft2font.cpp.
>>
>> (And long term, as cool as matplotlib is, it would be nice to refactor 
>> this out as a separate library for apps that don't do any plotting...)
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Mike
>>
>> Paul Kienzle wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> It would be great to be able to display math markup in other parts of my
>>> application, such as labels, tables, lists and menus. Has anyone ever
>>> tried doing this for wx or gtk?
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance,
>>>
>>> - Paul
>>>
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From: Paul K. <pki...@ni...> - 2007年08月31日 22:01:06
On Fri, Aug 31, 2007 at 03:32:09PM -0400, Michael Droettboom wrote:
> And placing bitmaps in menu items reportedly doesn't work at all on 
> wxCocoa. -- so maybe it's best to stay away from that altogether.
The wxPython demo.py for menus has a smiley face bit map that displays
just fine. Let me know if you want a screen shot.
	- Paul
From: Paul K. <pki...@ni...> - 2007年08月31日 21:57:40
Attachments: mathtext_wx.png
On Fri, Aug 31, 2007 at 03:28:49PM -0400, Michael Droettboom wrote:
> There is now preliminary support for getting a mathtext bitmap to 
> transfer to a GUI widget in SVN, along with a toy wxPython example in 
> examples/mathtext_wx.py. I've only tested this on 
> Linux/wxGTK2/wxPython-2.8. I'd appreciate help with testing (and 
> screenshots) on any other platforms you may care about.
That's wonderful! I'm attaching a screen shot for wx 2.8 on OS/X.
The rendering is kind of ugly, but I haven't looked into it.
	- Paul
From: Michael D. <md...@st...> - 2007年09月04日 13:55:41
Attachments: Screenshot.png
Just FYI -- this is what it looks like in Linux/wxGTK.
Paul Kienzle wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 31, 2007 at 03:28:49PM -0400, Michael Droettboom wrote:
>> There is now preliminary support for getting a mathtext bitmap to 
>> transfer to a GUI widget in SVN, along with a toy wxPython example in 
>> examples/mathtext_wx.py. I've only tested this on 
>> Linux/wxGTK2/wxPython-2.8. I'd appreciate help with testing (and 
>> screenshots) on any other platforms you may care about.
> 
> That's wonderful! I'm attaching a screen shot for wx 2.8 on OS/X.
> 
> The rendering is kind of ugly, but I haven't looked into it.
> 
> 	- Paul
> 
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
From: John H. <jd...@gm...> - 2007年09月04日 14:58:08
On 8/31/07, Paul Kienzle <pki...@ni...> wrote:
> That's wonderful! I'm attaching a screen shot for wx 2.8 on OS/X.
>
> The rendering is kind of ugly, but I haven't looked into it.
My giess is that for some reason wx is not respecting the alpha
channel -- that will give you the rough, chunky text you are seeing.
I saw similar looking text when working with dvipng output before I
got the alpha channel right.
JDH
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