User talk:Johannnes89

Greetings Johannnes and welcome to the community,

You undid a modification fixing the Wikimedia Foundation elections/2024/Voter eligibility guidelines page without justification. When you think there is a problem in a change made in good faith, unless it's major, please explain it to the responsible editor instead (at least at first). If you decide to undo the change, always explain what you think is wrong.

The problematic page belongs to our community and can be edited by anyone, but if you think it shouldn't (as your edit summary suggests), please add a discussion topic on the page's Talk page, so that ownership can be debated and changed in case that is desirable. --Chealer (talk) 00:20, 9 September 2024 (UTC) (link fixed 2024年09月14日)Reply

Please stop doing this, Chealer. You're making yourself look like a fool by saying "welcome to the community" and then repeating rote procedural policies to a WMF emplotee and steward while you're blocked on multiple other wikis. And the idea that the rules for who can vote in an ongoing election "belong to the community" and you can try to force your changes in over the objections of the Wikimedia Foundation is ludicrous. Finally, although I shouldn't have to do this, on their own merits the edits are largely pointless - the rules for voting in the 2024 election are not going to change now that its ongoing so tvaring them is a waste of effort, and the other edits seem to be just pointless rearranging without making anything that much clearer. I've fully-protected the page as a result. * Pppery * _{it has begun} 01:32, 9 September 2024 (UTC) Reply

@Chealer I explained my revert in the edit summary and more detailed minutes later on your talk page [1]. When the WMF employee responsible for supporting the EC running this election tells you not to edit the voter eligibility guidelines directly [2] and a meta admin repeats this [3], it is you who needs to reach consensus on the talk page before reverting those edits.

Your edit summary is:

Undo revision 27427187 by Chealer (talk) please leave changes to this page to the WMF staff managing this election (and please don't remove translation variables)

All you explained on my talk page was your confused request not to remove translation variables... which the edit actually added. What I was telling should have been explained is the reason why you reverted the change (assuming you had one). --Chealer (talk) 00:13, 14 September 2024 (UTC) Reply

Thanks for stopping the edit-war @Pppery! Johannnes89 (talk) 05:50, 9 September 2024 (UTC) Reply

Hi @Pppery,

Please clarify your request and watch your language. And thanks for clarifying which repetition of "rote procedural policies to a WMF emplotee and steward"[sic] you are referring to.

Our project is more than 20 years old and far from finished, so this election is unlikely to be our last. Taking care of our translators is definitely not "wasted effort".

Finally, let's please stick to the point, i.e. the reversion by Johannnes89. Nobody is talking about changing the 2024 election's rules. --Chealer (talk) 00:49, 14 September 2024 (UTC) Reply