Talk:Movement Charter/Drafting Committee/Archived

What is happening until August 2? Ad Huikeshoven (talk) 15:21, 21 July 2021 (UTC) Reply

Dear Ad, thank you for the question!

Over the course of the next 10 days we will be collecting feedback regarding this draft and making necessary changes based on the suggestions received. We have tried to converge different viewpoints presented in previous discussions and hope there is not a need for substantial changes. In this anticipation we are looking forward to launching the call for candidates on August 2, 2021.

I hope this clarifies the timeline. I am available for any further specifications! --KVaidla (WMF) (talk) 15:47, 21 July 2021 (UTC) Reply

Would it be worth generating a centralised list of questions, or are we planning on individual questions (a la en-wiki ARBCOM)? If so, then that could feasibly start during this time/call for candidates Nosebagbear (talk) 21:52, 21 July 2021 (UTC) Reply

Hello, to have acceptance for the movement charter draft everybody should have the chance to publish a draft for a topic mentioned in the charter without being part of the drafting committee. I think that discussion at talk pages is important and this is the way how the Wikimedia projects work. I dont have a problem if there is additionally a drafting committee. It is important that it is publishing during the year what they worked on and shares some links so that also the other community members can understand how the result draft was made and learn from other organizations.--Hogü-456 (talk) 19:33, 30 July 2021 (UTC) Reply

I've gone ahead and updated the description of this committee to make it clear that what it produces will only be a draft, until movement-wide revision and ratification occurs. It's quite possible that seeing the committee's draft the community will decide to accept it, reject it, or replace it entirely - but until that happens, the only thing that the committee can produce is a draft. TomDotGov (talk) 12:28, 2 August 2021 (UTC) Reply

The Board elections were postponed by two weeks due to technical difficulties with SecurePoll. Under the previous schedule, there would have been a decent-length gap between the end of the Board elections and the end of nominations for the Drafting Committee, potentially allowing those unsuccessful candidates from the Board elections to also apply for the Committee. With the postponement of the Board elections, that is no longer the case, IIUC. Should the MC Drafting Committee elections be similarly postponed? --Yair rand (talk) 23:19, 2 August 2021 (UTC) Reply

@Yair rand: This is a fair point, thank for flagging it. We're considering this and will probably announce any changes in the timeline soon. Kindly keep an eye on the news section for Movement Strategy, and I'll also make sure to ping you in case there's anything new --Abbad (WMF) (talk) 10:23, 11 August 2021 (UTC).Reply

I just trimmed my statement to 400 words, because that's what the tables were being tagged with, but in the wikitext notes it gives 450 words. Could this be clarified either way? Nosebagbear (talk) 00:50, 6 August 2021 (UTC) Reply

@Nosebagbear: My bad, I changed it in the template but not in the preload page. It's now fixed. Although it was initially set at 450 words, the limit was indeed reduced to 400 words since no candidates had longer statements at the time and 450 was considered a bit too long. Apologies for the inconvenience it has caused --Abbad (WMF) (talk) 10:19, 11 August 2021 (UTC).Reply

Which age of majority applies? Syrcro (talk) 10:06, 11 August 2021 (UTC) Reply

@Syrcro: It would be the legal age that applies in the country/state/location where they are based --Abbad (WMF) (talk) 14:19, 11 August 2021 (UTC).Reply

Thank you, I have also added your answer to the page as a footnote. Syrcro (talk) 08:31, 12 August 2021 (UTC) Reply

Is last day in UTC or AoE? ✍️ Dušan Kreheľ (talk) 15:41, 17 August 2021 (UTC) Reply

Why are the candidate requirements so strict?

Will this group be handling private information? And what does "age of majority" have to do with one's ability to draft a document?

With sincere respect, this comes across as "because we can" and "because we only want people of a certain 'type' to apply"

This just feels like everything related to WMF is starting to just automatically require things whether they are necessary or not.

Please clarify. - Jc37 (talk) 20:04, 17 August 2021 (UTC) Reply