Top Ten Wikipedias/poll
Description
The following is a poll about a rearrangement of the top ten wikipedias that are displayed on the main wikipedia portal (http://www.wikipedia.org). The poll will start on July 6, 2008 at 00:00 UTC and will end on July 31, 2008 at 23:59 UTC.
- Introduction
This topic has been wandering around for a long time on Talk:www.wikipedia.org template, coming to surface in many occasions, especially on the times around the milestone of 100.000 articles of the Chinese and Russian Wikipedias.
After a tentative wrap-up of all the proposals made in that page throughout the months in Talk:www.wikipedia.org template#rethinking the top ten, a discussion was launched in Top Ten Wikipedias , to which all the major Wikipedias have been invited to in their village pump.
A lot of good opinions have been collected and discussed, and a vote proposal has been made and received some feedback. That proposal is now being implemented below.
- Vote requirements
Any Wikimedian may vote, provided that they:
- Have a user account created at least 3 months before the start of the vote (i.e. 5 March 2008) on any Wikipedia;
- Have a user account on Meta, with links in the user page to the other project(s) userpage(s) and
- Have a minimum 500 edits (across all projects) total.
- How to vote
- Voters should choose only one of each option for the questions below (Important: this doesn't apply to the options 3.C and 3.D).
- If an option has sub-options, the parent option shouldn't be voted on, but rather one of the sub-options. The sub-options will count individually against the top-level options.
- The most voted option of a question will be chosen.
Question 1
Which criterion should be used in the main wikipedia portal (http://www.wikipedia.org) for sorting the various language editions of wikipedia?
Option A
Number of articles (the current criterion)
- Maksim 05:50, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
- --SkyDrinker 09:27, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
- --Gusme 11:17, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
- Cradel 12:04, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
- --Pietrodn · talk with me 14:01, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
(削除) Rubietje88 14:05, 6 July 2008 (UTC) (see nl:Gebruiker:Rubietje88) (削除ここまで)please add the link in your meta userpage as required. Waldir 14:52, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ](削除) Cumulus 14:27, 6 July 2008 (UTC) (削除ここまで)please add the link in your meta userpage as required in the instructions above. Waldir 14:52, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
- Lvova 15:47, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
- Erwin1990 15:59, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
- — Iguacu • ru 16:13, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
- Xyboi 16:23, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
- --Felisopus Talk to me 16:30, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
- Sannita - not just another it.wiki sysop 17:07, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
- Art Unbound 17:13, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
- --Actarux 17:14, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
- Gruznov 18:14, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
- OekelWm 19:15, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
- -- Prince Kassad 19:41, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
- --Maurits 21:29, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
- Nsaa 21:30, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
- Roelzzz 00:22, 7 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
- --Westermarck 00:43, 7 July 2008 (UTC) BTW: What a meaningless poll.[reply ]
- Mhaesen 06:47, 7 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
- Migdejong 07:14, 7 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
- Polimerek 07:32, 7 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
- JacobH 07:54, 7 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
- Rdrozd 08:09, 7 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
- Panairjdde 09:08, 7 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
- --Alma Pater 09:31, 7 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
- --Itsmine 09:33, 7 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
- --KS 12:44, 7 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
Option B
Most visited wikipedias (usability for the visitor instead of praise to the editors; portal as navigational tool. Discussion here)
- Paintman 00:19, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
- Gons (¿Digame?) 00:28, 6 July 2008 (UTC).
- Waldir 00:55, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
- --C'est moi 00:57, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
- -- MS >>> 01:14, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
- --Morza (sono qui) 01:49, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
- OhanaUnited Talk page 02:47, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
- --Aleposta 03:41, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
- 333 03:52, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
- --Kwj2772 04:24, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
- --GerardM 05:39, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
- Davewild 07:23, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
- Mercedes (Gusgus) (mensajes) 07:50, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
- --Bultro 08:06, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
- --<flrn> 08:41, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
- ----Fernando Estel 09:08, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
- Helios 10:01, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
- Tholly 10:37, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
- Jeron 10:47, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
- João Sousa 11:16, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
- --Yerul (comlink) 11:42, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
- Filceolaire 11:47, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
- Marcos 11:57, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
- ※(注記) JéRRy ┼ 雨雨 ※(注記) 12:11, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
- --Anonymous Dissident Talk 13:11, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
- --Nekto 13:51, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
- Kevinhksouth 14:49, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
- --Elisardojm 15:53, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
- Njaelkies Lea 16:26, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
- -PhiLiP 16:29, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
- --χario WP:de: χario 16:51, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
- Leo Johannes 16:57, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
- Anders Wennersten 17:31, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
- --Lockal 17:48, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
- MiCkE 19:03, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
- --Ysogo 20:28, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
- --Sanbec 21:07, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
- Ainali 21:46, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
- --Hispalois 21:54, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
- VasilievV 2 21:55, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
- MikaelLindmark 23:47, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
- --Isha 00:39, 7 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
- --Galio 00:47, 7 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
- --Jorunn 00:50, 7 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
- --Guaca 01:16, 7 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
- Nakon 04:44, 7 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
- Racso 04:49, 7 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
- Hargau 07:23, 7 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
- #!George Shuklin 07:55, 7 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
- --Puppy8800 09:10, 7 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
- Eleassar my talk 10:27, 7 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
- Littlepotato 11:04, 7 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
- ...Aurora... 11:05, 7 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
- Shibo77 12:28, 7 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
Option C
Size of compressed database (an adaptation of the current measure, but reducing impact of bot-created articles — see reasoning)
Option D
Number of articles with a given minimum size (a simpler adaptation; filters out stubs and bot-created articles)
Sub-option D.1
1 kB (1 byte = 1 ASCII character)
Sub-option D.2
2 kB (used in http://stats.wikimedia.org)
Sub-option D.3
3 kB (proposed here)
Option E
Most spoken languages (like 1.b, intended to be useful for the most people possible. Discussion here)
- Tosão 00:16, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
- Mollerup 13:03, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
- Berserkerus 14:30, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
- --::Slomox:: >< 16:48, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
- --jeroenvrp 23:21, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
Question 2
Should only one of the above criteria be used, or a combination of them? (By multiplication of the rankings — harder to cheat, but less comprehensive to visitors)
Option A
One — 1 (the most voted one, on question 1.)
- Gons (¿Digame?) 00:28, 6 July 2008 (UTC).
- Waldir 00:59, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
- GerardM 05:40, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
- Davewild 07:23, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
- Mercedes (Gusgus) (mensajes) 07:50, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
- --Bultro 08:07, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
- <flrn> 08:41, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
- --SkyDrinker 09:28, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
- Helios 09:59, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
- João Sousa 11:17, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
- --Yerul (comlink) 11:44, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
- Marcos 11:57, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
- Mollerup 13:03, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
- --Anonymous Dissident Talk 13:21, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
- --Pietrodn · talk with me 14:02, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
- Lvova 15:47, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
- — Iguacu • ru 16:13, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
- Njaelkies Lea 16:28, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
- --χario WP:de: χario 16:52, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
- Sannita - not just another it.wiki sysop 17:08, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
- --Actarux 17:15, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
- Anders Wennersten 17:33, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
- MiCkE 19:04, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
- -- Prince Kassad 19:43, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
- --Lockal 20:18, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
- Nsaa 21:31, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
- Ainali 21:46, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
- VasilievV 2 21:55, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
- --Hispalois 21:58, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
- --Nemo 22:46, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
- --jeroenvrp 23:23, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
- Roelzzz 00:22, 7 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
- Nakon 04:46, 7 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
- Mhaesen 06:47, 7 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
- Hargau 07:23, 7 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
- JacobH 07:55, 7 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
- --Alma Pater 09:32, 7 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
- --Itsmine 09:33, 7 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
- Jon Harald Søby 10:20, 7 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
- Eleassar my talk 10:28, 7 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
- Littlepotato 11:04, 7 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
- Shibo77 12:27, 7 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
Option B
Two — 2 (the two most voted)
- - tholly --Turnip-- 10:39, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
- --Gusme 11:18, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
- --Nekto 13:53, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
- Xyboi 16:26, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
- --Felisopus Talk to me 16:31, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
- Art Unbound 17:14, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
- OekelWm 19:16, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
- --Ysogo 20:28, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
- MikaelLindmark 23:47, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
- Polimerek 07:51, 7 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
- Panairjdde 09:08, 7 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
- ...Aurora... 11:05, 7 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
Option C
Three — 3 (the three most voted)
Question 3
Should a visual clue be used to highlight the language version determined by the language of the browser, OS, and IP of the visitor?
Option A
No
- Maksim 05:51, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
- Davewild 07:23, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
- SyG 16:11, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
- Xyboi 16:27, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
- --Ysogo 20:28, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
- --Hispalois 21:58, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
- Roelzzz 00:22, 7 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
- Nakon 04:45, 7 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
- Mhaesen 06:47, 7 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
- Migdejong 07:17, 7 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
- ...Aurora... 11:06, 7 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
- Shibo77 12:25, 7 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
Option B
Reverse video (like this)
Option C (non-exclusive with Option D)
If the "local" language version is one of the top ten: Reordering of the ranking (dynamic portal approach: move the local version to the top position and the others which were above it will drop one position each)
- <flrn> 08:43, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
(削除) --Pietrodn · talk with me 14:06, 6 July 2008 (UTC) (削除ここまで)vote change, sorry --Pietrodn · talk with me 14:07, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
Option D (non-exclusive with Option C)
If the "local" language version is not in the top ten:
Sub-option D.1
Do nothing (leave it as it is)
Sub-option D.2
Replace one of the top ten the editions (remove the last one of the top ten and add the "local" version in its place)
- Berserkerus 14:31, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
- MiCkE 19:02, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
- MikaelLindmark 23:47, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
Sub-option D.3
Replace the editions (remove the last one of the top ten and add the "local" version in the first place, moving all the others down one position)
- --Bultro 08:08, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
- <flrn> 08:42, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
- Helios 10:00, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
- - tholly --Turnip-- 10:40, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
- --Gusme 11:18, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
- --Yerul (comlink) 11:44, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
- Njaelkies Lea 16:31, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
- --Felisopus Talk to me 16:31, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
- --::Slomox:: >< 16:48, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
- --Michail 17:07, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
- -- Prince Kassad 19:43, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
- Nsaa 21:33, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
- Ainali 21:46, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
- Racso 04:51, 7 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
- Migdejong 07:13, 7 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
- Polimerek 07:52, 7 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
- --Panairjdde 09:09, 7 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
- Jon Harald Søby 10:20, 7 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
- Eleassar my talk 10:32, 7 July 2008 (UTC) (Due to accessibility issues)[reply ]
Option E
Different font color (e.g. like this)
- Tosão 00:17, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
- Gons (¿Digame?) 00:30, 6 July 2008 (UTC)o
- Waldir 00:56, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
- Jeron 10:45, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
- João Sousa 11:18, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
- Mollerup 13:03, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
- --Nekto 13:56, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
- --Pietrodn · talk with me 14:07, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
- Kevinhksouth 14:50, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
- Erwin1990 16:00, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
- --Actarux 17:15, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
- OekelWm 19:17, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
- --Maurits 21:31, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
- VasilievV 2 21:55, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
- --Nemo 22:46, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
- --jeroenvrp 23:25, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
- Hargau 07:24, 7 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
- --Itsmine 09:33, 7 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
- Littlepotato 11:05, 7 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]