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Description

The vote is open until July 31, 2008 at 23:59 UTC. Please make sure you fall under the requirements for voters before casting your vote.

The following is a poll about a rearrangement of the top ten wikipedias that are displayed on the main wikipedia portal (http://www.wikipedia.org). The poll will start on July 6, 2008 at 00:00 UTC and will end on July 31, 2008 at 23:59 UTC.

Introduction

This topic has been wandering around for a long time on Talk:www.wikipedia.org template, coming to surface in many occasions, especially on the times around the milestone of 100.000 articles of the Chinese and Russian Wikipedias.

After a tentative wrap-up of all the proposals made in that page throughout the months in Talk:www.wikipedia.org template#rethinking the top ten, a discussion was launched in Top Ten Wikipedias , to which all the major Wikipedias have been invited to in their village pump.

A lot of good opinions have been collected and discussed, and a vote proposal has been made and received some feedback. That proposal is now being implemented below.

Vote requirements

Any Wikimedian may vote, provided that they:

  1. Have a user account created at least 3 months before the start of the vote (i.e. 5 March 2008) on any Wikipedia;
  2. Have a user account on Meta, with links in the user page to the other project(s) userpage(s) and
  3. Have a minimum 500 edits (across all projects) total.
How to vote
  1. Voters should choose only one of each option for the questions below (Important: this doesn't apply to the options 3.C and 3.D).
  2. If an option has sub-options, the parent option shouldn't be voted on, but rather one of the sub-options. The sub-options will count individually against the top-level options.
  3. The most voted option of a question will be chosen.

Question 1

Which criterion should be used in the main wikipedia portal (http://www.wikipedia.org) for sorting the various language editions of wikipedia?

Option A

Number of articles (the current criterion)

  1. Maksim 05:50, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
  2. --SkyDrinker 09:27, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
  3. --Gusme 11:17, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
  4. Cradel 12:04, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
  5. --Pietrodn · talk with me 14:01, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
    (削除) Rubietje88 14:05, 6 July 2008 (UTC) (see nl:Gebruiker:Rubietje88) (削除ここまで) please add the link in your meta userpage as required. Waldir 14:52, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
    (削除) Cumulus 14:27, 6 July 2008 (UTC) (削除ここまで) please add the link in your meta userpage as required in the instructions above. Waldir 14:52, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
  6. Lvova 15:47, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
  7. Erwin1990 15:59, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
  8. Iguacuru 16:13, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
  9. Xyboi 16:23, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
  10. --Felisopus Talk to me 16:30, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
  11. Sannita - not just another it.wiki sysop 17:07, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
  12. Art Unbound 17:13, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
  13. --Actarux 17:14, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
  14. Gruznov 18:14, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
  15. OekelWm 19:15, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
  16. -- Prince Kassad 19:41, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
  17. --Maurits 21:29, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
  18. Nsaa 21:30, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
  19. Roelzzz 00:22, 7 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
  20. --Westermarck 00:43, 7 July 2008 (UTC) BTW: What a meaningless poll.[reply ]
  21. Mhaesen 06:47, 7 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
  22. Migdejong 07:14, 7 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
  23. Polimerek 07:32, 7 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
  24. JacobH 07:54, 7 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
  25. Rdrozd 08:09, 7 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
  26. Panairjdde 09:08, 7 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
  27. --Alma Pater 09:31, 7 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
  28. --Itsmine 09:33, 7 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
  29. --KS 12:44, 7 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]

Option B

Most visited wikipedias (usability for the visitor instead of praise to the editors; portal as navigational tool. Discussion here)

  1. Paintman 00:19, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
  2. Gons (¿Digame?) 00:28, 6 July 2008 (UTC).
  3. Waldir 00:55, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
  4. --C'est moi 00:57, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
  5. -- MS >>> 01:14, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
  6. --Morza (sono qui) 01:49, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
  7. OhanaUnited Talk page 02:47, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
  8. --Aleposta 03:41, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
  9. 333 03:52, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
  10. --Kwj2772 04:24, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
  11. --GerardM 05:39, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
  12. Davewild 07:23, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
  13. Mercedes (Gusgus) (mensajes) 07:50, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
  14. --Bultro 08:06, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
  15. --<flrn> 08:41, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
  16. ----Fernando Estel 09:08, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
  17. Helios 10:01, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
  18. Tholly 10:37, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
  19. Jeron 10:47, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
  20. João Sousa 11:16, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
  21. --Yerul (comlink) 11:42, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
  22. Filceolaire 11:47, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
  23. Marcos 11:57, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
  24. (注記) JéRRy 雨雨 (注記) 12:11, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
  25. --Anonymous Dissident Talk 13:11, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
  26. --Nekto 13:51, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
  27. Kevinhksouth 14:49, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
  28. --Elisardojm 15:53, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
  29. Njaelkies Lea 16:26, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
  30. -PhiLiP 16:29, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
  31. --χario WP:de: χario 16:51, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
  32. Leo Johannes 16:57, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
  33. Anders Wennersten 17:31, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
  34. --Lockal 17:48, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
  35. MiCkE 19:03, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
  36. --Ysogo 20:28, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
  37. --Sanbec 21:07, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
  38. Ainali 21:46, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
  39. --Hispalois 21:54, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
  40. VasilievV 2 21:55, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
  41. MikaelLindmark 23:47, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
  42. --Isha 00:39, 7 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
  43. --Galio 00:47, 7 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
  44. --Jorunn 00:50, 7 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
  45. --Guaca 01:16, 7 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
  46. Nakon 04:44, 7 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
  47. Racso 04:49, 7 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
  48. Hargau 07:23, 7 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
  49. #!George Shuklin 07:55, 7 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
  50. --Puppy8800 09:10, 7 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
  51. Eleassar my talk 10:27, 7 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
  52. Littlepotato 11:04, 7 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
  53. ...Aurora... 11:05, 7 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
  54. Shibo77 12:28, 7 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]

Option C

Size of compressed database (an adaptation of the current measure, but reducing impact of bot-created articles — see reasoning)

    Option D

    Number of articles with a given minimum size (a simpler adaptation; filters out stubs and bot-created articles)

    Sub-option D.1

    1 kB (1 byte = 1 ASCII character)

      Sub-option D.2

      2 kB (used in http://stats.wikimedia.org)

        Sub-option D.3

        3 kB (proposed here)

        1. SyG 16:09, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]

        Option E

        Most spoken languages (like 1.b, intended to be useful for the most people possible. Discussion here)

        1. Tosão 00:16, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
        2. Mollerup 13:03, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
        3. Berserkerus 14:30, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
        4. --::Slomox:: >< 16:48, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
        5. --jeroenvrp 23:21, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]

        Question 2

        Should only one of the above criteria be used, or a combination of them? (By multiplication of the rankings — harder to cheat, but less comprehensive to visitors)

        Option A

        One — 1 (the most voted one, on question 1.)

        1. Gons (¿Digame?) 00:28, 6 July 2008 (UTC).
        2. Waldir 00:59, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
        3. GerardM 05:40, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
        4. Davewild 07:23, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
        5. Mercedes (Gusgus) (mensajes) 07:50, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
        6. --Bultro 08:07, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
        7. <flrn> 08:41, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
        8. --SkyDrinker 09:28, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
        9. Helios 09:59, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
        10. João Sousa 11:17, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
        11. --Yerul (comlink) 11:44, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
        12. Marcos 11:57, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
        13. Mollerup 13:03, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
        14. --Anonymous Dissident Talk 13:21, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
        15. --Pietrodn · talk with me 14:02, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
        16. Lvova 15:47, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
        17. Iguacuru 16:13, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
        18. Njaelkies Lea 16:28, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
        19. --χario WP:de: χario 16:52, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
        20. Sannita - not just another it.wiki sysop 17:08, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
        21. --Actarux 17:15, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
        22. Anders Wennersten 17:33, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
        23. MiCkE 19:04, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
        24. -- Prince Kassad 19:43, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
        25. --Lockal 20:18, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
        26. Nsaa 21:31, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
        27. Ainali 21:46, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
        28. VasilievV 2 21:55, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
        29. --Hispalois 21:58, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
        30. --Nemo 22:46, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
        31. --jeroenvrp 23:23, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
        32. Roelzzz 00:22, 7 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
        33. Nakon 04:46, 7 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
        34. Mhaesen 06:47, 7 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
        35. Hargau 07:23, 7 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
        36. JacobH 07:55, 7 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
        37. --Alma Pater 09:32, 7 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
        38. --Itsmine 09:33, 7 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
        39. Jon Harald Søby 10:20, 7 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
        40. Eleassar my talk 10:28, 7 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
        41. Littlepotato 11:04, 7 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
        42. Shibo77 12:27, 7 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]

        Option B

        Two — 2 (the two most voted)

        1. - tholly --Turnip-- 10:39, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
        2. --Gusme 11:18, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
        3. --Nekto 13:53, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
        4. Xyboi 16:26, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
        5. --Felisopus Talk to me 16:31, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
        6. Art Unbound 17:14, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
        7. OekelWm 19:16, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
        8. --Ysogo 20:28, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
        9. MikaelLindmark 23:47, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
        10. Polimerek 07:51, 7 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
        11. Panairjdde 09:08, 7 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
        12. ...Aurora... 11:05, 7 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]

        Option C

        Three — 3 (the three most voted)

          Question 3

          Should a visual clue be used to highlight the language version determined by the language of the browser, OS, and IP of the visitor?

          Option A

          No

          1. Maksim 05:51, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
          2. Davewild 07:23, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
          3. SyG 16:11, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
          4. Xyboi 16:27, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
          5. --Ysogo 20:28, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
          6. --Hispalois 21:58, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
          7. Roelzzz 00:22, 7 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
          8. Nakon 04:45, 7 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
          9. Mhaesen 06:47, 7 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
          10. Migdejong 07:17, 7 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
          11. ...Aurora... 11:06, 7 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
          12. Shibo77 12:25, 7 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]

          Option B

          Reverse video (like this)

            Option C (non-exclusive with Option D)

            If the "local" language version is one of the top ten: Reordering of the ranking (dynamic portal approach: move the local version to the top position and the others which were above it will drop one position each)

            1. <flrn> 08:43, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
              (削除) --Pietrodn · talk with me 14:06, 6 July 2008 (UTC) (削除ここまで) vote change, sorry --Pietrodn · talk with me 14:07, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]

            Option D (non-exclusive with Option C)

            If the "local" language version is not in the top ten:

            Sub-option D.1

            Do nothing (leave it as it is)

              Sub-option D.2

              Replace one of the top ten the editions (remove the last one of the top ten and add the "local" version in its place)

              1. Berserkerus 14:31, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
              2. MiCkE 19:02, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
              3. MikaelLindmark 23:47, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]

              Sub-option D.3

              Replace the editions (remove the last one of the top ten and add the "local" version in the first place, moving all the others down one position)

              1. --Bultro 08:08, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
              2. <flrn> 08:42, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
              3. Helios 10:00, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
              4. - tholly --Turnip-- 10:40, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
              5. --Gusme 11:18, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
              6. --Yerul (comlink) 11:44, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
              7. Njaelkies Lea 16:31, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
              8. --Felisopus Talk to me 16:31, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
              9. --::Slomox:: >< 16:48, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
              10. --Michail 17:07, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
              11. -- Prince Kassad 19:43, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
              12. Nsaa 21:33, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
              13. Ainali 21:46, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
              14. Racso 04:51, 7 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
              15. Migdejong 07:13, 7 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
              16. Polimerek 07:52, 7 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
              17. --Panairjdde 09:09, 7 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
              18. Jon Harald Søby 10:20, 7 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
              19. Eleassar my talk 10:32, 7 July 2008 (UTC) (Due to accessibility issues)[reply ]

              Option E

              Different font color (e.g. like this)

              1. Tosão 00:17, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
              2. Gons (¿Digame?) 00:30, 6 July 2008 (UTC)o
              3. Waldir 00:56, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
              4. Jeron 10:45, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
              5. João Sousa 11:18, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
              6. Mollerup 13:03, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
              7. --Nekto 13:56, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
              8. --Pietrodn · talk with me 14:07, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
              9. Kevinhksouth 14:50, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
              10. Erwin1990 16:00, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
              11. --Actarux 17:15, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
              12. OekelWm 19:17, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
              13. --Maurits 21:31, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
              14. VasilievV 2 21:55, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
              15. --Nemo 22:46, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
              16. --jeroenvrp 23:25, 6 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
              17. Hargau 07:24, 7 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
              18. --Itsmine 09:33, 7 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
              19. Littlepotato 11:05, 7 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]

              AltStyle によって変換されたページ (->オリジナル) /