[Python-Dev] backporting stdlib 2.7.x from pypy to cpython

Brian Curtin brian.curtin at gmail.com
Thu Jun 14 03:45:00 CEST 2012


On Jun 13, 2012 8:31 PM, "Stephen J. Turnbull" <stephen at xemacs.org> wrote:
>> Cameron Simpson writes:
>> > This approach has its own problems. Is the proposed list, like many
lists,
> > restricted to accept posts only from subscribers? If that is the case,
> > when someone CCs the VM list, everyone honouring the CC in replies
needs
> > to be a VM list member if they are not to get annoying bounce
> > messages.
>> Mailman has a feature called "sibling lists", which seems to include
> cross-checking membership on posts, although I'm not sure if it is
> tuned to exactly this purpose.
>> In any cases, if the proposed list is not a discussion list, it can be
> configured not to send bounce messages just because somebody honored
> CC. For example, by keying on the Reference and In-Reply-To headers,
> and discarding the message if they are present (possible by ordinary
> configuration of the spam filters). For bonus points, bounce such
> messages when python-dev is not present among the visible addressees.
> (Might require a special Handler, but it wouldn't be a big deal to
> write it because it can be installed only for the new list.)
>> > +1 to this, but how to keep this etiquette maintained?
>> A filter on the new list, implemented as above. It's pretty much
> trivial for those with the know-how.
>> > And (premised on my concern above), do people wanting to CC: the VM
list
> > for the heads-up purpose need to join it first?
>> Probably not, but this is hardly burdensome; many people with the
> background to know when to CC: may want to subscribe anyway even if
> they are subscribed to python-dev, and traffic should be quite low.
> If even so that's a bother, they can set their subscription to no-mail.
>> > Conversely, some of this discussion mentions that people don't
subscribe
> > to python-dev; do they need to subscribe to chime in when the bat
signal
> > goes off?
>> Maybe not: I believe it's possible to post to python-dev via Gmane if
> you're not subscribed. Even if they need to be subscribed, there is a
> wealth of options, including Gmane and the archives, for reading
> traffic without receiving it as mail (ie, by subscribing and then
> setting the no-mail flag).
>> > Hackish idea: suppose there were a special purpose mail forwarder,
> > like a write-only mailing list? It would require special Mailman
> > hackery,
>> Not that special.
>
Can someone create python-dev-meta?
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