[Python-Dev] Moving bugs and patches through the pipeline more quickly

Wed, 6 Mar 2002 19:51:01 -0600

 Guido> [Skip]
 >> ... formal triage system ...
 Guido> Sorry, since we're all volunteers here, I don't see how a formal
 Guido> rotation could work. Since you're a volunteer, I don't feel
 Guido> comfortable to tell you to do something. 
I wasn't thinking about it quite like that. I was thinking more along the
lines of a subset of people would volunteer to do the triage, passing it off
between themselves at the rotation boundaries. That's more-or-less how
Cameron Laird does it for the weekly Python URL stuff.
 >> As an "official" developer, I would find it useful to get a summary
 >> mailing weekly of stuff that's assigned to me. I have no particular
 >> other reason to login to SF.
 Guido> When something's assigned to you, you get an email. Isn't that
 Guido> enough?
Well, like most people, I need occasional re-reminding. ;-)
 >> This suggests that it would be useful if SF allowed people to
 >> temporarily inactivate themselves. Is there such a feature? (I
 >> didn't see anything, though I was just able to change my timezone
 >> from US/Eastern to US/Central. woo hoo!)
 Guido> There's no such a thing. I suppose you could remove yourself
 Guido> from the list of developers, and later when you want back on, you
 Guido> can ask to be added back. But that only works for long absences
 Guido> (like several months).
Yeah, I was afraid of that.
 Guido> Playing games with the bug priority to get someone's
 Guido> attention is also the wrong thing to do ...
 >> I don't believe I suggested this as a way to grab peoples' attention.
 Guido> No, but Jonathan Gardner did that, and really p*ssed me off (he
 Guido> was complaining he didn't get a response to a bug he reported the
 Guido> previous evening).
I wasn't aware of that. He obviously didn't raise the priority of a bug
that was assigned to me...
 Guido> I would certainly like to see more applications from people
 Guido> interested in getting developer status, even if it means I'll
 Guido> have to do semi-formal "interviews" or reference checks myself.
 Guido> How can we encourage the good developers that exist to help?
I suggest you post an announcement to c.l.py. I don't know where best to
have them reply. Sending mail to guido@python.org would clearly not be the
right place. Python-dev wouldn't normally be the right place for this
either, but that's where all the people qualified to do the reference checks
hang out.
 >> Still, I sort of doubt this is how other large open source projects
 >> work. I can't imagine it's a real productive use of your time or
 >> that of other gifted folks (Larry Wall, Ben Wing, etc).
 Guido> I'll do anything I can to get more people to volunteer. 
Do you think if the PSF sold a Guido swimsuit calendar it would help? ;-)
be-careful-when-you-say-"anything"-ly, y'rs,
Skip