Re: [Python-Dev] Daemon creation code in the standard library (was: Inherance of file descriptor and handles on Windows (PEP 446))

2013年07月25日 Thread Cameron Simpson
On 25Jul2013 17:26, Antoine Pitrou wrote: | Le 2013年7月25日 12:08:18 +1000, | Ben Finney a écrit : |> Work continues on the PEP 3143-compatible ‘python-daemon’, porting it |> to Python 3 and aiming for inclusion in the standard library. | | The PEP hasn't been formally accepted yet, howeve

Re: [Python-Dev] Official github mirror for CPython?

2013年07月25日 Thread Nick Coghlan
On 26 Jul 2013 03:02, "Maciej Fijalkowski" wrote:>> On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 5:30 PM, Brett Cannon wrote:>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 11:18 AM, Eli Bendersky wrote:>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 7:48 AM, Brian Curtin wrote:>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 9:3

Re: [Python-Dev] Coverity Scan

2013年07月25日 Thread Terry Reedy
On 7/25/2013 6:56 PM, Christian Heimes wrote: Am 26.07.2013 00:32, schrieb Terry Reedy: # Since false positives should stay constant as true positives are reduced toward 0, false / all should tend toward 1 (100%) if I understand the ratio correctly. Which I did not ;-). About 40% of the di

Re: [Python-Dev] Coverity Scan

2013年07月25日 Thread Christian Heimes
Am 26.07.2013 00:00, schrieb Terry Reedy:>> http://www.coverity.com/company/press-releases/read/coverity-introduces-monthly-spotlight-series-for-coverity-scan-open-source-projects>>> > The intention is to promote the best of open source to industry. I think it's also a marketing tool. They lik

Re: [Python-Dev] Coverity Scan

2013年07月25日 Thread Christian Heimes
Am 26.07.2013 00:50, schrieb Antoine Pitrou:> "Excellence"? The term is too weak, I would say "perfection" at least,> but perhaps we should go as far as "divinity". Don't forget that Python can offer lots of places to keep your bike clean and dry ... *scnr* __

Re: [Python-Dev] Coverity Scan

2013年07月25日 Thread Christian Heimes
Am 26.07.2013 00:32, schrieb Terry Reedy:> I found the answer here> https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B5wQCOK_TiRiMWVqQ0xPaDEzbkU/edit> Coverity Integrity Level 1 is 1 (defect/1000 lines)> Level 2 is .1 (we have passed that)> Level 3 is .01 + no major defects + <20% (all all defects?) false> po

Re: [Python-Dev] Coverity Scan

2013年07月25日 Thread Antoine Pitrou
On 2013年7月25日 18:00:55 -0400 Terry Reedy wrote:> On 7/25/2013 2:48 PM, Christian Heimes wrote:>> Hello,>>>> this is an update on my work and the current status of Coverity Scan.> > Great work.> >>>> Maybe you have noticed a checkins made be me that end with the line "CID>> #"

Re: [Python-Dev] Coverity Scan

2013年07月25日 Thread Terry Reedy
On 7/25/2013 6:00 PM, Terry Reedy wrote: Defect Density:0.05 = defects per thousand lines = 20/400 Anything under 1 is good. The release above reports Samba now at .6. http://www.pcworld.com/article/2038244/linux-code-is-the-benchmark-of-quality-study-concludes.html reports Linux 3.8 as

Re: [Python-Dev] Coverity Scan

2013年07月25日 Thread Terry Reedy
On 7/25/2013 2:48 PM, Christian Heimes wrote: Hello, this is an update on my work and the current status of Coverity Scan. Great work. Maybe you have noticed a checkins made be me that end with the line "CID #". These are checkins that fix an issue that was discovered by the static code ana

Re: [Python-Dev] Python 3 as a Default in Linux Distros

2013年07月25日 Thread Laurent Gautier
On 07/25/2013 06:03 PM, Lennart Regebro wrote: On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 1:53 PM, Laurent Gautier wrote: My meaning was the use of 2to3's machinery (and fire a message if a translation occurs) not 2to3 itself, obviously. I don't understand what you mean is the difference. //Lennart bullet-poi

[Python-Dev] Coverity Scan

2013年07月25日 Thread Christian Heimes
Hello, this is an update on my work and the current status of Coverity Scan. Maybe you have noticed a checkins made be me that end with the line "CID #". These are checkins that fix an issue that was discovered by the static code analyzer Coverity. Coverity is a commercial product but it's a free

Re: [Python-Dev] Official github mirror for CPython?

2013年07月25日 Thread Maciej Fijalkowski
On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 5:30 PM, Brett Cannon wrote:>>>> On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 11:18 AM, Eli Bendersky wrote:>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 7:48 AM, Brian Curtin wrote:>>>>>> On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 9:37 AM, Christian Heimes >>> wrote:>>>> Am 25.07.2013 16:29, schrieb Eli Ben

Re: [Python-Dev] Python 3 as a Default in Linux Distros

2013年07月25日 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 10:25:26PM +1000, Nick Coghlan wrote:> On 25 July 2013 20:38, Toshio Kuratomi wrote:>>>> On Jul 24, 2013 6:37 AM, "Brett Cannon" wrote:>>> The key, though, is adding python2 and getting your code to use that>>> binary specifically so that shifting the default nam

Re: [Python-Dev] Python 3 as a Default in Linux Distros

2013年07月25日 Thread Lennart Regebro
On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 1:53 PM, Laurent Gautier wrote:> My meaning was the use of 2to3's machinery (and fire a message if a> translation occurs) not 2to3 itself, obviously. I don't understand what you mean is the difference. //Lennart ___ Python-Dev

Re: [Python-Dev] Official github mirror for CPython?

2013年07月25日 Thread Brett Cannon
On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 11:18 AM, Eli Bendersky wrote:>>>> On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 7:48 AM, Brian Curtin wrote:>>> On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 9:37 AM, Christian Heimes >> wrote:>>> Am 25.07.2013 16:29, schrieb Eli Bendersky:>>>> Hi all,>>>>>>>> I've been looking for a Github mirror f

Re: [Python-Dev] Daemon creation code in the standard library (was: Inherance of file descriptor and handles on Windows (PEP 446))

2013年07月25日 Thread Antoine Pitrou
Le 2013年7月25日 12:08:18 +1000, Ben Finney a écrit :> Guido van Rossum writes:> >> To reduce the need for 3rd party subprocess creation code, we should>> have better daemon creation code in the stdlib -- I wrote some damn>> robust code for this purpose in my previous job, but it never

Re: [Python-Dev] Official github mirror for CPython?

2013年07月25日 Thread Eli Bendersky
On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 7:48 AM, Brian Curtin wrote:> On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 9:37 AM, Christian Heimes > wrote:>> Am 25.07.2013 16:29, schrieb Eli Bendersky:>>> Hi all,>>>>>> I've been looking for a Github mirror for Python, and found two:>>>>>> * https://github.com/python-git/pyth

Re: [Python-Dev] Official github mirror for CPython?

2013年07月25日 Thread Christian Heimes
Am 25.07.2013 16:48, schrieb Brian Curtin:> On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 9:37 AM, Christian Heimes > wrote:>> Am 25.07.2013 16:29, schrieb Eli Bendersky:>>> Hi all,>>>>>> I've been looking for a Github mirror for Python, and found two:>>>>>> * https://github.com/python-git/python has a lot of f

Re: [Python-Dev] Official github mirror for CPython?

2013年07月25日 Thread Brian Curtin
On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 9:37 AM, Christian Heimes wrote:> Am 25.07.2013 16:29, schrieb Eli Bendersky:>> Hi all,>>>> I've been looking for a Github mirror for Python, and found two:>>>> * https://github.com/python-git/python has a lot of forks/watches/starts>> but seems to be very out of dat

Re: [Python-Dev] Official github mirror for CPython?

2013年07月25日 Thread Christian Heimes
Am 25.07.2013 16:29, schrieb Eli Bendersky:> Hi all,> > I've been looking for a Github mirror for Python, and found two:> > * https://github.com/python-git/python has a lot of forks/watches/starts> but seems to be very out of date (last updated 4 years ago)> * https://github.com/python-mirro

Re: [Python-Dev] Official github mirror for CPython?

2013年07月25日 Thread Chris Angelico
On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 12:29 AM, Eli Bendersky wrote:> Hi all,>> I've been looking for a Github mirror for Python, and found two:>> * https://github.com/python-git/python has a lot of forks/watches/starts but> seems to be very out of date (last updated 4 years ago)> * https://github.com/py

[Python-Dev] Official github mirror for CPython?

2013年07月25日 Thread Eli Bendersky
Hi all, I've been looking for a Github mirror for Python, and found two: * https://github.com/python-git/python has a lot of forks/watches/starts but seems to be very out of date (last updated 4 years ago) * https://github.com/python-mirror/python doesn't appear to be very popular but is updated

Re: [Python-Dev] Python 3 as a Default in Linux Distros

2013年07月25日 Thread Nick Coghlan
On 25 July 2013 10:06, Nick Coghlan wrote:>> On 25 Jul 2013 05:30, "Toshio Kuratomi" wrote:>>>> On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 12:42:09PM -0400, Barry Warsaw wrote:>>> On Jul 25, 2013, at 01:41 AM, Nick Coghlan wrote:>>>>>>>How's this for an updated wording in the abstract:>>>>>>>> * f

Re: [Python-Dev] Python 3 as a Default in Linux Distros

2013年07月25日 Thread Nick Coghlan
On 25 July 2013 20:38, Toshio Kuratomi wrote:>> On Jul 24, 2013 6:37 AM, "Brett Cannon" wrote:>> The key, though, is adding python2 and getting your code to use that>> binary specifically so that shifting the default name is more of a>> convenience than something which might break existing

Re: [Python-Dev] Python 3 as a Default in Linux Distros

2013年07月25日 Thread Laurent Gautier
On 07/25/2013 01:19 PM, Lennart Regebro wrote: On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 12:41 PM, Laurent Gautier wrote: - a user is running a python script (he expects to be working), and is using the default /usr/bin/python (formerly Python 2, now Python 3). If the program fails because of obvious Python 2-on

Re: [Python-Dev] Python 3 as a Default in Linux Distros

2013年07月25日 Thread Lennart Regebro
On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 12:41 PM, Laurent Gautier wrote:> - a user is running a python script (he expects to be working), and is using> the default /usr/bin/python (formerly Python 2, now Python 3). If the> program fails because of obvious Python 2-only idioms, reporting this rather> that the

Re: [Python-Dev] Python 3 as a Default in Linux Distros

2013年07月25日 Thread Laurent Gautier
On 07/25/2013 11:45 AM, Maciej Fijalkowski wrote: On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 7:22 PM, Laurent Gautier wrote: On 07/24/2013 06:30 PM, Chris Angelico wrote: On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 2:21 AM, Laurent Gautier wrote: - errors that are typical of "Python 2 script running with Python 3"-specific are pr

Re: [Python-Dev] Python 3 as a Default in Linux Distros

2013年07月25日 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Jul 24, 2013 6:37 AM, "Brett Cannon" wrote:> The key, though, is adding python2 and getting your code to use that binary specifically so that shifting the default name is more of a convenience than something which might break existing code not ready for the switch.> Applicable to this, does

Re: [Python-Dev] Python 3 as a Default in Linux Distros

2013年07月25日 Thread Maciej Fijalkowski
On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 7:22 PM, Laurent Gautier wrote:> On 07/24/2013 06:30 PM, Chris Angelico wrote:>>>> On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 2:21 AM, Laurent Gautier >> wrote:>>>>>> - errors that are typical of "Python 2 script running with Python>>> 3"-specific are probably limited (e.g., use of uni