Hi, folks. TLDR, was the final decision made already?
If "dict keeps insertion order" is not language spec and we continue to recommend people to use OrderedDict to keep order, I want to optimize OrderedDict for creation/iteration and memory usage. (See https://bugs.python.org/issue31265#msg301942 ) If dict ordering is language spec, I'll stop the effort and use remaining time to another optimizations. My thought is, +1 to make it language spec. * PHP (PHP 7.2 interpreter is faster than Python) keeps insertion order. So even we make it language spec, I think we have enough room to optimize. * It can make stop discussion like "Does X keeps insertion order? It's language spec?", "What about Y? Z?". Everything on top of dict keeps insertion order. It's simple to learn and explain. Regards, INADA Naoki <[email protected]> On Sun, Nov 5, 2017 at 3:35 AM, Guido van Rossum <[email protected]> wrote: > This sounds reasonable -- I think when we introduced this in 3.6 we were > worried that other implementations (e.g. Jython) would have a problem with > this, but AFAIK they've reported back that they can do this just fine. So > let's just document this as a language guarantee. > > On Sat, Nov 4, 2017 at 10:30 AM, Stefan Krah <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> Hello, >> >> would it be possible to guarantee that dict literals are ordered in v3.7? >> >> >> The issue is well-known and the workarounds are tedious, example: >> >> >> https://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-ideas/2015-December/037423.html >> >> >> If the feature is guaranteed now, people can rely on it around v3.9. >> >> >> >> Stefan Krah >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Python-Dev mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev >> Unsubscribe: >> https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/guido%40python.org > > > > > -- > --Guido van Rossum (python.org/~guido) > > _______________________________________________ > Python-Dev mailing list > [email protected] > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev > Unsubscribe: > https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/songofacandy%40gmail.com > _______________________________________________ Python-Dev mailing list [email protected] https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com