[Python-Dev] Re: Switching to Discourse

2022年7月18日 06:57:53 -0700

I see I might have misunderstood, thinking a python-dev channel on discuss
was not as active as the mailing list. Understood.
My original stand on preferring email stands though due to stable standards.
On Mon., Jul. 18, 2022, 4:41 p.m. Petr Viktorin, <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 15. 07. 22 21:13, Joannah Nanjekye wrote:
> > I am -1 for leaving email due to the long history of standardization,
> > for a platform whose future I don't know about.
> >
> > When you say core development is busier, does that mean the experiment
> > with python-dev failed? aka wasn't a success, if so why are we moving
> > python-dev too if it's not working well? I stand to be corrected
> obviously.
>
> I'm sorry, I don't understand what you meant here.
>
> The "experiment" was introducing Discourse (discuss.python.org) to see
> if people would like it. It looks like they do, since the Core
> Development category on Discourse is more active than this mailing list
> (python-dev).
>
>
> >
> > On Fri., Jul. 15, 2022, 2:22 p.m. Petr Viktorin, <[email protected]
> > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> >
> > Hello,
> > Currently development discussions are split between multiple
> > communication channels, for example:
> > - python-dev and discuss.python.org <http://discuss.python.org> for
> > design discussions,
> > - GitHub Issues and Pull Requests for specific changes,
> > - IRC, Discord and private chats for real-time discussions,
> > - Topic-specific channels like typing-sig.
> >
> > While most of these serve different needs, there is too much overlap
> > between python-dev and discuss.python.org
> > <http://discuss.python.org>. It seems that for most
> > people, this situation is worse than sticking to either one platform
> –
> > even if we don't go with that person's favorite.
> >
> > The discuss.python.org <http://discuss.python.org> experiment has
> > been going on for quite a while,
> > and while the platform is not without its issues, we consider it a
> > success. The Core Development category is busier than python-dev.
> > According to staff, discuss.python.org <http://discuss.python.org>
> > is much easier to moderate.. If
> > you're following python-dev but not discuss.python.org
> > <http://discuss.python.org>, you're missing out.
> >
> > The Steering Council would like to switch from python-dev to
> > discuss.python.org <http://discuss.python.org>.
> > Practically, this means:
> > - Moving the required PEP announcements to discuss.python.org
> > <http://discuss.python.org>
> > - Moving discuss.python.org <http://discuss.python.org> up in the
> > devguide communications page
> > (https://devguide.python.org/communication/
> > <https://devguide.python.org/communication/>)
> > - And that's it?
> >
> > I imagine that the mailing list will stay around for continuing past
> > discussion threads and for announcements, eventually switching to
> > auto-reject incoming messages with a pointer to discuss.python.org
> > <http://discuss.python.org>.
> >
> > To be clear, discuss.python.org <http://discuss.python.org> allows
> > editing posts, which is frankly
> > handy for typos and clarifications. Editing alone should not be used
> > for
> > adding new info -- we should cultivate a culture of being friendly to
> > mail users & notification watchers. This probably bears repeating in
> a
> > few places.
> >
> > We're aware not everyone wants to use the discuss.python.org
> > <http://discuss.python.org> website,
> > but there are some ways to avoid it:
> >
> > - For new PEPs, you can point your RSS client to
> > https://www.python.org/dev/peps/peps.rss
> > <https://www.python.org/dev/peps/peps.rss> – it's not e-mail, but
> many
> > email clients have RSS support. You can also watch the Steering
> Council
> > issues on GitHub (https://github.com/python/steering-council/issues/
> > <https://github.com/python/steering-council/issues/>)
> > for important questions and discussions.
> >
> > - You can use discuss.python.org <http://discuss.python.org>'s
> > "mailing list mode" (which subscribes
> > you to all new posts), possibly with filtering and/or categorizing
> > messages locally.
> >
> > However, we would like to know if this will pose an undue burden to
> > anyone, if there are workflows or usage problems that we are not
> aware
> > of. As mentioned, this is something the Steering Council thinks is a
> > good idea, but we want to make sure we're aware of all the impact
> when
> > we make the final decision.
> >
> >
> >
> > – Petr, on behalf of the Steering Council
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