[all] MMI minutes December 12, 2016

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 [1]W3C
 
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 - DRAFT -
 
 Multimodal Interaction Working Group Teleconference
 12 Dec 2016
 
 See also: [2]IRC log
 
 [2] http://www.w3.org/2016/12/12-multimodal-irc
 
Attendees
 
 Present
 Debbie, Kaz
 
 Regrets
 helena
 
 Chair
 Debbie
 
 Scribe
 kaz
 
Contents
 
 * [3]Topics
 1. [4]actions
 2. [5]charter
 3. [6]Use cases
 * [7]Summary of Action Items
 * [8]Summary of Resolutions
 __________________________________________________________
 
 <scribe> scribenick: kaz
 
actions
 
 <ddahl> actions
 [9]https://www.w3.org/2002/mmi/Group/track/actions/open
 
 [9] https://www.w3.org/2002/mmi/Group/track/actions/open
 
 <ddahl> action 454?
 
 <ddahl> action-454?
 
 <trackbot> action-454 -- Deborah Dahl to Turn bullet list into
 text -- due 2016年09月05日 -- OPEN
 
 ddahl: I'm behind...
 
 <trackbot>
 [10]https://www.w3.org/2002/mmi/Group/track/actions/454
 
 [10] https://www.w3.org/2002/mmi/Group/track/actions/454
 
 action-457?
 
 <trackbot> action-457 -- Kazuyuki Ashimura to Make a
 strawman/template diagram for relationships between entities in
 a use case -- due 2016年10月10日 -- OPEN
 
 <trackbot>
 [11]https://www.w3.org/2002/mmi/Group/track/actions/457
 
 [11] https://www.w3.org/2002/mmi/Group/track/actions/457
 
 ->
 [12]https://github.com/w3c/mmi/blob/gh-pages/usecases/images/dr
 awing.svg basic template of entity relationship
 
 [12]
https://github.com/w3c/mmi/blob/gh-pages/usecases/images/drawing.svg
 
 kaz: we can use this as the template for entity relationship
 
 dahl: wondering about the interaction between the visitor and
 the exhibit
 
 kaz: possibly touch the exhibit
 
 dahl: also ask questions and it starts talking
 
 <ddahl> labels for arcs might be "touch" or "information about
 exhibit"?
 
 kaz: good question
 ... could include both properties and actions
 
 ddahl: the visitor could be a student
 ... and can add labels for arcs
 
 <ddahl> should the use cases provide labels for the arcs?
 
 kaz: yes
 
 <ddahl> we aren't too interested in the interactions between
 people
 
 kaz: and Entity 2 could be an official at the reception desk
 
 (change the order later)
 
 scribe: so Entity 2 should be a guide terminal device or kiosk
 
 ddahl: ok
 ... and each use case should have this kind of diagram?
 
 kaz: yes
 ... I'll add this image to the Overview.html
 ... and all the assigned use case editors should add this kind
 of diagrams to his/her use cases
 
 action-458?
 
 <trackbot> action-458 -- B Helena RODRIGUEZ to Send wot person
 our vocabulary to get his comments and then we can reconcile
 our work with their work -- due 2016年10月24日 -- OPEN
 
 <trackbot>
 [13]https://www.w3.org/2002/mmi/Group/track/actions/458
 
 [13] https://www.w3.org/2002/mmi/Group/track/actions/458
 
 kaz: Helena did add a subdirectory
 
 ddahl: would be better to have some description on the tool
 
 <ddahl> close action-462
 
 <trackbot> Closed action-462.
 
 -> [14]https://github.com/w3c/mmi/tree/gh-pages/lib Helena's
 tools
 
 [14] https://github.com/w3c/mmi/tree/gh-pages/lib
 
 action-463?
 
 <trackbot> action-463 -- Kazuyuki Ashimura to Talk with
 johannes about a good time for an mmi/wot call, possibly during
 scripting time slot -- due 2016年11月28日 -- OPEN
 
 <trackbot>
 [15]https://www.w3.org/2002/mmi/Group/track/actions/463
 
 [15] https://www.w3.org/2002/mmi/Group/track/actions/463
 
 kaz: we've just done that
 
 <ddahl> close action-463
 
 <trackbot> Closed action-463.
 
 kaz: and the conclusion from the WoT Scripting call today was
 bringing this to the WoT IG main call
 ... possibly on Wednesday, Dec. 14
 
 ddahl: can send a link to the list
 ... other than the MMI Architecture spec, what would be good to
 be sent?
 
 kaz: the MMI Interoperability Test Note
 
 ddahl: and your diagram?
 
 kaz: ok
 
 ddahl: and my demo
 
 kaz: and maybe Dirk also might want to send his demo and/or
 paper
 
 ddahl: good idea
 
 <ddahl> action-464?
 
 <trackbot> action-464 -- Kazuyuki Ashimura to Write more about
 uc-7 -- due 2016年11月28日 -- OPEN
 
 <trackbot>
 [16]https://www.w3.org/2002/mmi/Group/track/actions/464
 
 [16] https://www.w3.org/2002/mmi/Group/track/actions/464
 
 kaz: not yet
 
charter
 
 kaz: what should be the deliverables for the next period
 ... given the discussion with the WoT IG, maybe it would make
 sense to have a best practice doc or a guideline on bridging
 WoT and MMI
 ... and how should we handle EMMA 2.0 and MMI MC
 Discovery/Registration?
 
 ddahl: the biggest thing for EMMA 2.0 is that it's a JSON
 version
 ... we sort of promised we would do that
 ... and we need Helena for Discovery/Registration discussion
 ... have not reviewed Dirk's comment yet
 
 kaz: shall we skim that?
 
 ddahl: we can look at that
 
 ->
 [17]https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-multimodal/2016Nov
 /0003.html Dirk's comments
 
 [17]
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-multimodal/2016Nov/0003.html
 
 ddahl: the comments on abstract, status, etc., are editorial
 
 ->
 [18]https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-multimodal/2016Nov
 /0005.html Dirk's comments on section 4
 
 [18]
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-multimodal/2016Nov/0005.html
 
 kaz: the question on "MMI framework vs MMI Architecture" is
 interesting
 
 ddahl: we don't want to make the framework a standard
 ... all the comments look nice
 ... asking for good clarifications
 
 kaz: we should talk with Dirk and Helena about this in detail
 during the next call
 
 ddahl: ok
 
Use cases
 
 -> [19]https://w3c.github.io/mmi/usecases/Overview.html Use
 Case doc
 
 [19] https://w3c.github.io/mmi/usecases/Overview.html
 
 kaz: should we add the relationship diagram to all the use
 cases before publishing?
 
 ddahl: don't think so
 ... maybe we could remove "museum" specific points from the
 template and make it completely diagram
 
 kaz: +1
 ... and we should change the diagram template as well
 ... e.g., from concrete value to "property 1", etc.
 
 ddahl: yes
 ... and for the UC-7, the concrete entity might be a rice
 cooker and an air conditioner
 
 kaz: right
 
 ddahl: and maybe there is a home portal
 
 <ddahl> the user, vendor
 
 kaz: so Things and Stakeholders
 
 ddahl: child vs adult is important to distinguish who can deal
 with the device
 
 kaz: yes
 ... we might need some kind of authentication, e.g., based on
 age
 
 ddahl: yes
 ... if there is an instanciated version of the template, e.g.,
 for the appliance use case, it would be useful for people
 
 kaz: +1
 
 ddahl: which tool to use? would Inkscape be OK?
 ... SVG is great but if it's difficult for somebody to generate
 SVG, an image file would be also OK
 
 <ddahl> yEd is a good editing tool that can export SVG
 
 kaz: can try it if there is a Linux version
 
 (and there is a Linux version :)
 
 [ adjourned ]
 
Summary of Action Items
 
Summary of Resolutions
 
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