- From: Patrick H. Lauke <redux@splintered.co.uk>
- Date: 2016年7月14日 22:07:49 +0100
- To: w3c-wai-gl@w3.org
- Message-ID: <f13d0c64-6753-cfd9-038c-fdda0ae4a26a@splintered.co.uk>
On 14/07/2016 21:58, David MacDonald wrote: > I agree it would be difficult to drop anything and make make 2.1 > backward compatible, unless an SC has been overcome by events, and is > automatically met. > > A candidate might be... > > 1.4.2 audio control, because user agents are implementing a way to mute > a tab without muting system audio. On Firefox Control+M mutes any sound > coming from the page and allows the screen reader to read the page. The > SC says "a mechanism is available" so now its available in a major > browser... and will soon be in all browsers (hopefully). But for WCAG > one stack is enough. Browsers aren't the only user agents around, though (particularly when WCAG gets applied to more than just websites, but actual native apps etc as well) > I don't see how I can ever fail someone on 1.4.2 anymore, thanks to > James pointing this out. If we are looking to not cause SC bloat with > the new SCs, perhaps we can make a new category for SCs which have been > largely overcome by advances in User Agents etc... which still apply to > 2.1 but are folded away somewhere so 2.1 is not bloated with SCs that > developers don't need to worry about. > > Cheers, > David MacDonald > > > > *Can**Adapt* *Solutions Inc.* > > Tel: 613.235.4902 > > LinkedIn > <http://www.linkedin.com/in/davidmacdonald100> > > twitter.com/davidmacd <http://twitter.com/davidmacd> > > GitHub <https://github.com/DavidMacDonald> > > www.Can-Adapt.com <http://www.can-adapt.com/> > > > > / Adapting the web to *all* users/ > > / Including those with disabilities/ > > If you are not the intended recipient, please review our privacy policy > <http://www.davidmacd.com/disclaimer.html> > > On Thu, Jul 14, 2016 at 2:05 PM, John Foliot <john.foliot@deque.com > <mailto:john.foliot@deque.com>> wrote: > > Hi David, > > I don't think I'm understanding the question - I can't see how we > could remove a SC from a WCAG 2.1 and preserve a > backwards-compatible path to 2.0. > > Again, WCAG is about content requirements AFAIK, and while > techniques and patterns can come and go, the principles and Success > Criteria remain, and I would be concerned about dropping a Success > Criteria simply on the basis that newer technologies seemingly make > it easier to achieve any individual Success Criteria. That, in and > of itself, would not justify removing a requirement in my mind (only > make it simpler for content authors to meet the Success Criteria). > > Can you elaborate more please? Thanks. > > JF > > On Thu, Jul 14, 2016 at 12:00 PM, David MacDonald > <david100@sympatico.ca <mailto:david100@sympatico.ca>> wrote: > > On today's mobile call Jeanne brought up an important > consideration as we make the WCAG 2.1. If 2.1 seems much longer > than 2.0 we may be facing resistance to the new version. It came > up in the context of the question about whether we should try to > roll new SCs into the existing SCs where possible, or introduce > new SCs. > > But I think the issue raises another question. > > Are there any SCs that have been overcome sufficiently by the > environment, OS, User Agents etc. that we can remove them > without breaking the acceptance requirement of WCAG 2.1 that > meeting it also meets 2.0? > > Cheers, > David MacDonald > > > > *Can**Adapt* *Solutions Inc.* > > Tel: 613.235.4902 <tel:613.235.4902> > > LinkedIn > <http://www.linkedin.com/in/davidmacdonald100> > > twitter.com/davidmacd <http://twitter.com/davidmacd> > > GitHub <https://github.com/DavidMacDonald> > > www.Can-Adapt.com <http://www.can-adapt.com/> > > > > / Adapting the web to *all* users/ > > / Including those with disabilities/ > > If you are not the intended recipient, please review our privacy > policy <http://www.davidmacd.com/disclaimer.html> > > > > > -- > John Foliot > Principal Accessibility Strategist > Deque Systems Inc. > john.foliot@deque.com <mailto:john.foliot@deque.com> > > Advancing the mission of digital accessibility and inclusion > > -- Patrick H. Lauke www.splintered.co.uk | https://github.com/patrickhlauke http://flickr.com/photos/redux/ | http://redux.deviantart.com twitter: @patrick_h_lauke | skype: patrick_h_lauke
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