Minutes WCAG 17 February 2011

Minutes of the 17 February 2011 WCAG meeting are posted to
http://www.w3.org/2011/02/17-wai-wcag-minutes.html and copied below.
 Web Content Accessibility Guidelines Working Group Teleconference
 17 Feb 2011
Agenda <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-gl/2011JanMar/0028.html>
See also: IRC log <http://www.w3.org/2011/02/17-wai-wcag-irc>
 Attendees
Present
 +1.727.391.aaaa, James_Nurthen, Michael_Cooper, Marc_Johlic,
 Bruce_Bailey, Katie_Haritos-Shea, Adam_Solomon, David_MacDonald
Regrets
Chair
 Loretta_Guarino_Reid
Scribe
 David
 Contents
 * Topics <http://www.w3.org/2011/02/17-wai-wcag-minutes.html#agenda>
 1. is WCAG a good home for HTML 5 techniques before the
 standard is settled... not for discussion today but to think
 about
 <http://www.w3.org/2011/02/17-wai-wcag-minutes.html#item01>
 2. Issue LC-2438: Test in G68 does not seem to fit
 <http://www.w3.org/2011/02/17-wai-wcag-minutes.html#item02>
 3. Issue LC-2427: F61: 24 hours?
 <http://www.w3.org/2011/02/17-wai-wcag-minutes.html#item03>
 4. Issue LC-2466: Requirement for 200% text increase nearly
 impossible to meet in most cases
 <http://www.w3.org/2011/02/17-wai-wcag-minutes.html#item04>
 5. Issue LC-2445: The test for the correct use of longdesc
 should be conditional on its application
 <http://www.w3.org/2011/02/17-wai-wcag-minutes.html#item05>
 6. was before last topic... Issue LC-2443: The test should
 include a check whether the function to turn off blinking
 content is documented
 <http://www.w3.org/2011/02/17-wai-wcag-minutes.html#item06>
 7. Issue LC-2448: use of fieldset should not be required for
 any group of logically related input elements
 <http://www.w3.org/2011/02/17-wai-wcag-minutes.html#item07>
 8. Issue LC-2457: H93 and H94 are out of place
 <http://www.w3.org/2011/02/17-wai-wcag-minutes.html#item08>
 9. Issue LC-2449: Test for percent is in itself not meaningful,
 should encompass %, em, font size names
 <http://www.w3.org/2011/02/17-wai-wcag-minutes.html#item09>
 10. Issue LC-2450: Test contradicts other options to meet SC
 1.4.4
 <http://www.w3.org/2011/02/17-wai-wcag-minutes.html#item10>
 11. <scribe> topic: Issue LC-2451: Check for CSS seems less
 useful than test for use of deprecated elements (e.g., font,
 center, strike, i, b, u)
 <http://www.w3.org/2011/02/17-wai-wcag-minutes.html#item11>
 12. Issue LC-2437: I think there is a failure missing
 <http://www.w3.org/2011/02/17-wai-wcag-minutes.html#item12>
 13. Issue LC-2433: SM6, SM7: SC 1.2.5
 <http://www.w3.org/2011/02/17-wai-wcag-minutes.html#item13>
 * Summary of Action Items
 <http://www.w3.org/2011/02/17-wai-wcag-minutes.html#ActionSummary>
------------------------------------------------------------------------
<trackbot> Date: 17 February 2011
 is WCAG a good home for HTML 5 techniques before the standard is
 settled... not for discussion today but to think about
James recommended that we publish them with a note something like "these
techniques are based on the current status of the standard and may
change..."
<Loretta> Note: IT IS PREFERABLE FOR LINKS TO BE VISIBLE AT ALL TIMES,
SINCE USERS NAVIGATING VIA THE KEYBOARD INCLUDE switch users, those
using techniques that generate keyboard strokes slowly, screen
magnification software users, screen reader users working with sighted
colleagues, keyboard only users and those navigating using voice
recognition software. HOWEVER, SUCCESS CRITERION 2.4.1 DOES NOT REQUIRE
THAT THEY BE VISIBLE WHEN THEY DO NOT HAVE FOCUS, AND LINKS
http://www.w3.org/TR/UNDERSTANDING-WCAG20/navigation-mechanisms-focus-visible.html
Resolution: accept as proposed Issue LC-2456: Reword G1 'Description'
and 'Note'. (This will make "Skip to Main" as a permanent visible link)
Resolution accept as proposed: Issue LC-2469: SCR19 applies to SC 3.2.2 too
 Issue LC-2438: Test in G68 does not seem to fit
resolution: accept as amended Issue LC-2438: Test in G68 does not seem
to fit
 Issue LC-2427: F61: 24 hours?
Resolution: accept as amended Issue LC-2427: F61: 24 hours? (changed
from 24 hours to 10x the default change of context time.
... WCAG group accept with suggestions EOWG is proposing an update to
WCAG 2 at a Glance.
 Issue LC-2466: Requirement for 200% text increase nearly
 impossible to meet in most cases
<MichaelC>
http://trace.wisc.edu/wcag_wiki/index.php?title=Post_WCAG_2#Techniques
resolution: Accept as proposed:Issue LC-2466: Requirement for 200% text
increase nearly impossible to meet in most cases
 Issue LC-2445: The test for the correct use of longdesc should be
 conditional on its application
resolution: accept as amended Issue LC-2445: The test for the correct
use of longdesc should be conditional on its application
 was before last topic... Issue LC-2443: The test should include a
 check whether the function to turn off blinking content is documented
<MichaelC> *ACTION:* cooper to draft a section about testing techniques
for the Introduction to Techniques, relates to comment 2445 [recorded in
http://www.w3.org/2011/02/17-wai-wcag-minutes.html#action01]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-125 - Draft a section about testing techniques
for the Introduction to Techniques, relates to comment 2445 [on Michael
Cooper - due 2011年02月24日].
ccept as amended Issue LC-2443: The test should include a check whether
the function to turn off blinking content is documented
resolution: accept as amended Issue LC-2443: The test should include a
check whether the function to turn off blinking content is documented
reolution: accept as amended Issue LC-2447: Test whether all th Elements
have scope attribute misleading
 Issue LC-2448: use of fieldset should not be required for any
 group of logically related input elements
<scribe> *ACTION:* Loretta to reword H71 for comment LC2448 [recorded in
http://www.w3.org/2011/02/17-wai-wcag-minutes.html#action02]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-126 - Reword H71 for comment LC2448 [on
Loretta Guarino Reid - due 2011年02月24日].
<MichaelC> action-126: see comments in
http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35422/20110127misc/results#x2448
<trackbot> ACTION-126 Reword H71 for comment LC2448 notes added
 Issue LC-2457: H93 and H94 are out of place
 Issue LC-2449: Test for percent is in itself not meaningful,
 should encompass %, em, font size names
Resolution: accepted as amended Issue LC-2449: Test for percent is in
itself not meaningful, should encompass %, em, font size names
 Issue LC-2450: Test contradicts other options to meet SC 1.4.4
resolution: accept as amended Issue LC-2450: Test contradicts other
options to meet SC 1.4.4
Issue LC-2451: Check for CSS seems less useful than test for use of
deprecated elements (e.g., font, center, strike, i, b, u)
 <scribe> topic: Issue LC-2451: Check for CSS seems less useful
 than test for use of deprecated elements (e.g., font, center,
 strike, i, b, u)
resolution: accept as amended Issue LC-2451: Check for CSS seems less
useful than test for use of deprecated elements (e.g., font, center,
strike, i, b, u)
 Issue LC-2437: I think there is a failure missing
<scribe> *ACTION:* on Adam to look into the issue surrounding 2437
comment, and get back to the working group... [recorded in
http://www.w3.org/2011/02/17-wai-wcag-minutes.html#action03]
<trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - on
<scribe> *ACTION:* Adam to look into the issue surrounding 2437 comment,
and get back to the working group.. [recorded in
http://www.w3.org/2011/02/17-wai-wcag-minutes.html#action04]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-127 - Look into the issue surrounding 2437
comment, and get back to the working group.. [on Adam Solomon - due
2011年02月24日].
Resolution: leave open 2437 pending adam's research
... accept as amended Issue LC-2459: Table heading in H63
 Issue LC-2433: SM6, SM7: SC 1.2.5
<MichaelC> trackbot, end meeting
 Summary of Action Items
*[NEW]* *ACTION:* Adam to look into the issue surrounding 2437 comment,
and get back to the working group.. [recorded in
http://www.w3.org/2011/02/17-wai-wcag-minutes.html#action04]
*[NEW]* *ACTION:* cooper to draft a section about testing techniques for
the Introduction to Techniques, relates to comment 2445 [recorded in
http://www.w3.org/2011/02/17-wai-wcag-minutes.html#action01]
*[NEW]* *ACTION:* Loretta to reword H71 for comment LC2448 [recorded in
http://www.w3.org/2011/02/17-wai-wcag-minutes.html#action02]
*[NEW]* *ACTION:* on Adam to look into the issue surrounding 2437
comment, and get back to the working group... [recorded in
http://www.w3.org/2011/02/17-wai-wcag-minutes.html#action03]
 
[End of minutes]
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Minutes formatted by David Booth's scribe.perl
<http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/%7Echeckout%7E/2002/scribe/scribedoc.htm>
version 1.135 (CVS log <http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/2002/scribe/>)
$Date: 2011年02月17日 23:16:47 $
-- 
Michael Cooper
Web Accessibility Specialist
World Wide Web Consortium, Web Accessibility Initiative
E-mail cooper@w3.org <mailto:cooper@w3.org>
Information Page <http://www.w3.org/People/cooper/>