- From: Phil Archer <phila@w3.org>
- Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2015 12:52:14 +0100
- To: Dave Reynolds <dave.e.reynolds@gmail.com>, semantic-web@w3.org
- Message-ID: <55C1F8EE.2050708@w3.org>
Right, good. Since this all started yesterday clearly things have moved on quickly since both domain names are functional now as you say (and this time yesterday were not). That's a welcome change and, yes, means that we don't need to make any changes to anything. Good. On 05/08/2015 12:36, Dave Reynolds wrote: > > On 05/08/15 12:25, Phil Archer wrote: >> Hi Dave, >> >> On 05/08/2015 11:39, Dave Reynolds wrote: >>> Hi Phil, >>> >>> Do you really mean to change the namespace? >> >> No, of course not, for the reasons you cite. But as of now, the owners >> of the vocab *have* moved it to a new location (and promised to get >> *that* back online) and, as there's a doc in /TR space that refers to >> it, something needs to be updated on our side. > > Actually I thought the owners had just offered to move the hosting, not > change the namespace. > > As of right now: > > http://rdfs.org/ns/void > > redirects to: > > http://vocab.deri.ie/void > > But the namespace in the dereferenced document remains > http://rdfs.org/ns/void# > > Dave > >> Something like this has been lurking as a future problem for a long time >> of course so part of my strategy here is to see how the community at >> large reacts to this real world case - and then see how W3C might be >> able to help, bearing in mind all the usual sustainability issues. >> >> Phil. >> >>> >>> That would mean that all existing tools that access void would cease to >>> work on new data and would have to be rewritten to look for properties >>> in both namespaces and/or all existing datasets mentioning void would >>> have to be rewritten to be conformant with the revised spec. >>> >>> The vocabulary ceasing to dereference is a minor inconvenience. Changing >>> the namespace impacts all data and is a *much* bigger deal. >>> >>> An alternative might be to leave the namespace unchanged but add a >>> comment in the document that the namespace no longer resolves and that >>> copies of the vocabulary can be obtained from X (whether that's Insight >>> or W3c or both). >>> >>> Dave >>> >>> On 05/08/15 11:17, Phil Archer wrote: >>>> Dear all, >>>> >>>> Following the demise of rdfs.org [1] and INSIGHT's statement of intent >>>> to maintain vocab.deri.ie [2], we need to update the specification >>>> document at http://www.w3.org/TR/void/ >>>> >>>> The current version [3] points to the rdfs.org namespace of course. >>>> >>>> I've created a GitHub repository for the SWIG [4] and, within that, >>>> have >>>> had a first pass at updating the voID document [5]. >>>> >>>> The offer remains on the table to host the VoID vocabulary at >>>> www.w3.org/ns/void. At the time of writing, vocab.deri.ie remains >>>> unavailable. >>>> >>>> The major change is, of course, the change in namespace, but there are >>>> many references in that document that are out of date so I've had to do >>>> more than just search and replace the namespace URI. For example, since >>>> VoID was written, RDF 1.1 has been finalised etc. Changes are listed in >>>> the change log at the end of the document. >>>> >>>> The W3C process for updating the document is pretty simple in this case >>>> [6]. We just need to make sure that members of this Interest Group - >>>> i.e. this mailing list - are content with the changes and then Dan, as >>>> SWIG chair, can call a vote (by e-mail). >>>> >>>> The doc in the GH repo has a suggested date for the new publication of >>>> 18 August but there's no need to feel tied to that. If you want write >>>> access to the repo, please just let me know your relevant ID. >>>> Suggestions for improvements are welcome of course. >>>> >>>> HTH >>>> >>>> Phil. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> [1] https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/semantic-web/2015Aug/0010.html >>>> [2] https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/semantic-web/2015Aug/0013.html >>>> [3] http://www.w3.org/TR/2011/NOTE-void-20110303/ >>>> [4] https://github.com/w3c/swig/ >>>> [5] http://w3c.github.io/swig/void/ >>>> [6] http://www.w3.org/2014/Process-20140801/#Note >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> > > -- Phil Archer W3C Data Activity Lead http://www.w3.org/2013/data/ http://philarcher.org +44 (0)7887 767755 @philarcher1
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