>>>>> "Andrew" == Andrew John Hughes <gnu_andrew@member.fsf.org> writes: Andrew> Sounds good to me; I hope this fixes the problem. Maybe I shouldn't Andrew> stick to the specs and just go with common sense in future... ;) Yeah, typical stuff :) Andrew> Thanks for spotting this, FWIW these are all coming from Tomcat startup... in case you're interested in some testing yourself :-) Tom