Check out http://jakarta.apache.org/site/jspa-agreement.html and http://jcp.org/aboutJava/communityprocess/announce/LetterofIntent.html I haven't read it all yet, but on the surface this looks like good news. Perhaps we (or, more properly, the FSF) should apply for one of these "support scholarships" in order to get help from Sun to run gcj on the platform TCK...? AG