Hey, if any of you are interested in watching XWT unfold, it has a mailing list now (so that I don't have to waste bandwidth on java@gcc.gnu.org): http://lists.xwt.org/lists/listinfo/announce Only I can post to the list and it gets about one message a week. Also, a draft of the XWT Reference has been released; it's all you need (beside a text editor and zip archiver) to write your own XWT applications. - a