Hey. I set this up about 3 weeks ago. http://www.openjava.org/about.html I haven't had time to run with it because life is really hectic right now (next week I will become Uncle Kevin! :)... Anyway. I won't have time to run with this for about 4 weeks or so. It was setup to push the things I hope all of us care about... Open Source and Java :). If anyone wants to run with this then +1... you can submit patches... and I could give you cvs commit. Kevin -- ** Should SUN Open Source Java? Please Vote: http://relativity.yi.org/java ** Kevin A Burton (burton@apache.org, burton@openprivacy.org, UIN: 73488596) http://relativity.yi.org http://www.openprivacy.org Message to SUN Microsystems: "Please Open Source Java!" To fight and conquer in all your battles is not supreme excellence; supreme excellence consists in breaking the enemy's resistance without fighting. - Sun Tzu, 300 B.C.