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On this forum i wrote a lot about the book :"Blitzed" from Norman Ohler.
This book covers many subjects about pre-nsdap Germany and how it became to be which resulted into the choice for to go to war which resulted into the second world war and the horrific ways the Jewish people were treated.

One of the chapters has a great subject about Alfred Nissle and how he discovered a bacteria strain, he later called and patented as Escherichia coli Nissle 1917 that is a natural enemy of many for the human hostile bacteria like Shigella including the most common of the Salmonella family.
Now, these days. It is known that there are many bacteria that are natural enemies of each other and for many we are a host.
The probiotics that are for sale these days can help a lot and often are natural enemies like for example to Salmonella and more(I will write more about those in a later post).
The spores versions in pill form seem to work best for as far as i know and experienced myself.

This article is a great read and is a testimony that knowledge about how important the microflora of the human gut really is and how it all works together is at least 150 years old.
As time passed, the details where filled in how the bacteria and the immunesystem communicate and regulate through for example interleukin production very near the inner walls of the large intestine (bowel).
Also, remember the possibility of that awful inflammation of the appendix ? The appendix , the storage department for our microflora of the human gut :

academic.oup.com

Escherichia coli strain Nissle 1917—from bench to bedside and back: history of a special Escherichia coli strain with probiotic properties

Detection and investigation on bacterial interference (antagonism) in the gut is closely connected to the history of the probiotic Escherichia coli strain
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In the second half of the 19th century, microbiology parted with botany and quickly established itself as a new independent scientific discipline. Microbiological research in general, and especially research in medical microbiology, saw an enormous boost. The time from about 1861 (Pasteur disproved spontaneous generation of life) till 1917 (d'Hérelle coined the term ‘bacteriophages’ for viruses that infect bacteria) is thus called ‘the first golden age of microbiology’ (Maloy and Schaechter 2006). The scientific upturn of medical microbiology was first of all a ‘golden age’ of bacteriology (Blevinsz and Bronze 2010). During this period, many different bacterial species were identified as etiologic agents of diverse human and animal infectious diseases. The increased significance of microbiology was a result of the ground-breaking discoveries of Louis Pasteur, Robert Koch, Joseph Lister, Albert Neisser, Friedrich Loeffler, Karl Joseph Eberth, David Bruce, Alexandre Yersin, Shibasaburo Kitasato and Paul Ehrlich, to name just a few.

At the same time, other pioneer microbiologists and immunologists, as for instance Theodor Escherich and Elie (Ilja) Metchnikoff, were interested in host–microbiota interactions and their relations to human health and disease (Escherich 1886; Metchnikoff 1907). One of the controversially discussed topics at that time was the question, whether the so-called normal microflora of the human gut or specific intestinal microorganisms might be more beneficial or more harmful to the host. Another unsolved question was, how the coexistence of the bacteria in the gut might be regulated and what kind of bacteria–bacteria interactions and bacteria–host interactions are taking place.
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In bacteriological practical courses, when medical students were encouraged to grow Petri-dish cultures with stool samples, spiked with pure cultures of pathogenic Salmonella strains, Nissle had observed that in most cases the Salmonella colonies clearly grew out of the lawn of the other bacteria. However, in rare cases, the Salmonellae grew poorly or even not at all. Instead, Escherichia coli colonies dominated. This led Nissle to the idea that in such cases the respective stool samples might contain E. coli strains that were able to impede the growth of the added Salmonella strains. Later, Nissle could show in laboratory experiments that in fact certain isolates of E. coli from the intestinal microbiota of healthy humans were able to inhibit the growth of co-cultured Salmonella strains and other coliform enteropathogens (Nissle 1916). For this special bacterial feature, Nissle coined the term ‘antagonistic activity’.
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The Escherichia coli strain nissle 1917 (EcN) strain was isolated by Alfred Nissle in 1917 during the First World War from the faeces of a German soldier. This soldier was a corporal of the armed forces, being at that time in a field hospital near Freiburg, who had joined the military campaign on the Balkans before. Deployed in the region of Dobrudja for some time, which was then heavily contaminated by Shigella, this soldier, in contrast to his comrades, did not develop diarrhoea or any other intestinal disease (Nissle 1925). Nissle suspected this soldier to carry an antagonistically strong E. coli strain in his gut that might have protected him from catching diarrhoea. As suspected, Nissle could isolate from a stool sample of this soldier an E. coli strain that in laboratory tests showed strong antagonistic activity against different pathogenic enterobacteria (Nissle 1925).
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While reading the about these bacteria in :"Engineer's Mini-Notebook - Magnet and Sensor Projects"...
Always learning something new : There are bacteria that align themselves to external magnetic fields. If that may be the Earths magnetic field or a strong local magnetic field in the vicinity of the bacteria.
These bacteria are called : Magnetotactic bacteria. As it seems, discovered and proven by Salvatore Bellini in the 1960s and later also by Richard P. Blakemore in the 1980s.

Makes me wander about underseas powerlines...
Also the seas are salt water and as so electrically conductive.
Makes ones wonder what manipulating the Earths magnetic field (by solar activities, the solar wind) does to the natural electrical current distribution in the salt water seas.
Like Michael Faraday once found out, a changing magnetic field induces a current in electrically conducting material.


For more information :

www.nature.com

Magnetotactic bacteria and magnetofossils: ecology, evolution and environmental implications - npj Biofilms and Microbiomes

Magnetotactic bacteria (MTB) are a group of phylogenetically diverse and morphologically varied microorganisms with a magnetoresponsive capability called magnetotaxis or microbial magnetoreception. MTB are a distinctive constituent of the microbiome of aquatic ecosystems because they use Earth’s...
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Magnetotactic bacteria (MTB) are a group of phylogenetically diverse and morphologically varied microorganisms with a magnetoresponsive capability called magnetotaxis or microbial magnetoreception. MTB are a distinctive constituent of the microbiome of aquatic ecosystems because they use Earth’s magnetic field to align themselves in a north or south facing direction and efficiently navigate to their favored microenvironments. They have been identified worldwide from diverse aquatic and waterlogged microbiomes, including freshwater, saline, brackish and marine ecosystems, and some extreme environments. MTB play important roles in the biogeochemical cycling of iron, sulphur, phosphorus, carbon and nitrogen in nature and have been recognized from in vitro cultures to sequester heavy metals like selenium, cadmium, and tellurium, which makes them prospective candidate organisms for aquatic pollution bioremediation.
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High speed cyano bacteria that capture enormous amounts of CO2 released by the underwater hydrothermal vent.
This bacteria could help us with developing better and faster CO2 scrubbers. Turning CO2 intho alkanes like hydrocarbons again.

www.bbc.com

The bacteria that can capture carbon

Could minuscule organisms help the world meet its climate goals?
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The bacteria that can capture carbon
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Scientists have recently discovered a microbe, a type of cyanobacteria, off the coast of a volcanic island near Sicily that eats carbon dioxide (CO2) "astonishingly quickly".
Cyanobacteria are a type of bacteria that use photosynthesis to obtain energy, capturing carbon in the process, and the new strain is "one of the fastest growing cyanobacteria... ever reported", says Tierney. He describes cyanobacteria as "nature's little alchemists" as they absorb large amounts of CO2 and can convert it into useful resources, such as fuels or biodegradable plastics.
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www.prnewswire.com

Scientists Discover Volcanic Microbe That Could Unlock New Frontier in Carbon Capture Technology

/PRNewswire/ -- Seed Health, a microbiome science company, today announced its latest environmental research collaboration, led by Dr. Braden Tierney and his...
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The project explores Earth's most extreme, CO2-rich environments to identify 'extremophile' microbes that may offer unique solutions for our planet's climate crisis.

LOS ANGELES, April 19, 2023 /PRNewswire/ -- Seed Health, a microbiome science company, today announced its latest environmental research collaboration, led by Dr. Braden Tierney and his team at The Two Frontiers Project (2FP), to discover microorganisms that thrive in extreme, CO2-rich environments, empowering novel solutions for carbon dioxide (CO2) reduction. Utilizing state-of-the-art scientific methods, the research team has already discovered novel cyanobacteria so efficient at consuming carbon dioxide that they appear to outperform other best-in-class carbon-capturing microbes. The group has already completed the first two expeditions, one off the coast of Sicily and the other in Colorado's Rocky Mountains. Funded by Seed Health's environmental division, SeedLabs, this research could help power next-generation carbon sequestration technology.
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Harnessing the Power of Microbes for Next-Gen Carbon Capture
Collaborating with researchers from the University of Palermo, the team's first expedition sampled water, sediment, and other sources of microbial life surrounding volcanic CO2 seeps near Vulcano, a small island off Sicily's coast. Next, in conjunction with a broader team from Harvard Medical School, Colorado State University, and the University of Wisconsin-Madison, they cultured specific carbon-capturing organisms from these samples in a lab environment that favors the growth of microbes with the most voracious appetite for CO2. Through this work, the researchers isolated a never-before-seen volcanic green photosynthetic bacteria.
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It seems that SARS-CoV2 can behave like a neuropathogen in worst scenario cases or perhaps behave like som sort of precursor in tandem with other pathogens (Comorbidity) :
This study is from 2022.

Encephalitis in Patients with COVID-19: A Systematic Evidence-Based Analysis - PMC

Although severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) predominantly infects the respiratory system, several investigations have shown the involvement of the central nervous system (CNS) along the course of the illness, with ...
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Although severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) predominantly infects the respiratory system, several investigations have shown the involvement of the central nervous system (CNS) along the course of the illness, with encephalitis being one of the symptoms. The objective of this systematic review was to evaluate the characteristics (clinical, neuro-radiological aspects, and laboratory features) and outcomes of encephalitis in COVID-19 patients. PubMed, Scopus, and Google Scholar databases were searched from 1 December 2019 until 21 July 2022 to identify case reports and case series published on COVID-19 associated with encephalitis. The quality of the included studies was assessed by the Joanna Briggs Institute critical appraisal checklists. This systematic review included 79 studies, including 91 COVID-19 patients (52.7% male) experiencing encephalitis, where 85.6% were adults (49.3 ± 20.2 years), and 14.4% were children (11.2 ± 7.6 years).
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Although in COVID-19, encephalitis is not a typical phenomenon, SARS-CoV-2 seems like a neuropathogen affecting the brain even when there are no signs of respiratory illness, causing a high rate of disability and fatality.
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Significant rates of neuro changes/complications in influenza as well, particularly young. This study found higher rates for influenza than CVD19:

Interesting. It makes sense though. Of course Influenza is a whole family of viruses and of course there is always a subtype that can be very dangerous.

I was always thought that nothing can pass the blood-brain barrier. But of course many different virus families use different means of travel. Many viruses are able to use the nerves and the activity inside the nerves as a transportation system to enter the brain.

And the brain has also special brain support cells that kind of function as a separate immune system inside the brain and nervous system.
It seems even the "general" immune system cannot just pass the blood-brain barrier. It seems that the permeability of the blood brain barrier also can be altered depending on the infection of the brain. First disease , then thereafter allow the "general" immune system into the brain.
All evolution perhaps because the cells from the immune system, itself is often a target for viruses. Think of for example T-Cells with HIV. And memory B-cells with Epstein-Barr.
Neurons are very popular victims for pathogens.

When i was a young lad i was told : Nothing, no pathogen can survive and thus pass the acid in the stomach. TOTAL LIE !
When i was a young lad i was told : Nothing, no pathogen can pass the blood-brain barrier and infect the brain. TOTAL LIE !

As an example :
After a viral infection like for example influenza in combination with aspirin usage, Reye syndrome can happen, a debilitating brain disease that mainly affects children and is potentially deadly.
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Previously unknown lymphatic vessels projecting into the meninges were discovered several years ago. On the bit of wisdom "Nothing survives the harsh stomach environment."

I mean how the fck did they think food born bacteria, virus, and parasites find their way to the intestines, crawling up? :rolleyes:

Edit: sorry did not see you had already mentioned it.
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Previously unknown lymphatic vessels projecting into the meninges were discovered several years ago. On the bit of wisdom "Nothing survives the harsh stomach environment."

I mean how the fck did they think food born bacteria, virus, and parasites find their way to the intestines, crawling up? :rolleyes:

Edit: sorry did not see you had already mentioned it.

To qoute myself :
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When i was a young lad i was told : Nothing, no pathogen can survive and thus pass the acid in the stomach. TOTAL LIE !
When i was a young lad i was told : Nothing, no pathogen can pass the blood-brain barrier and infect the brain. TOTAL LIE !
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What me was told in the old days, those are the same kind of people that claim that autoimmune diseases start because people are too clean, people wash too often. :rolleyes: TOTAL LIE !
And this perception of lies AKA folk wisdom, is still being repeated.

As an example of a pathogen living in the stomach :
Heliobacter pylori infections are at a very high rate in Nothern Africa, for example. I do not know why but it is on the rise. With all the traveling humans do, heliobacter pylori spreads as well.
Problem is that over time mutant versions of heliobacter pylori arise that are known to be carcinogens of the stomach and intestines.
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How do cancer cells really work ? And these tumorcells have a ferocious appetite to be able to grow fast. To divide and multiply fast. How to starve these tumor cells ?
That is how chemotherapy partially functions, the tumor cell consumes a lot of glucose but also gets saturated with the chemicals from chemotherapy while normal cells try to avoid the chemicals from the chemotherapy.
And an interesting research about how brown adipose fat can be used against tumor cells : Living cell therapy against tumors.

In this video it is explained :




my.clevelandclinic.org

Brown Fat, Brown Adipose Tissue: What It Is & What It Means

Brown fat is a type of body fat that activates in cold temperatures to regulate your body heat.
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What are the types of fat in my body?​

There are different types of fat in your body. Healthcare providers identify each type of fat by its color and function, including:
  • White fat: Most of the fat in your body is white fat. White fat stores energy in various places around your body. White fat insulates your organs. Too much white fat leads to obesity.
  • Brown fat: Brown fat is smaller than white fat. It stores energy and burns that energy to regulate your body temperature. Brown fat helps you burn calories by creating heat right before your body starts to shiver (thermogenesis). It also helps regulate sugar (glucose) and fat metabolism.
  • Beige fat: Beige fat is a combination of white and brown fat cells. These cells burn calories to regulate body temperature by converting white fat cells to brown.
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Per- and polyfluoroalkyl substances (PFAS) are called " forever chemicals" because they do not break down but accumulate in the body.
There is more and more research coming that PFAS affects the immunesystem, high levels of PFAS in the human body weakens the immunesystem and increases the chance for getting cancer.
High levels of PFAS in the human body weakens the effects of for example vaccins.
Luckily , there is a known cure to remove PFAS from the human body.

This is a documentary about PFAS pollution in Denmark and about the research done , how to remove PFAS from the body with a known medicine.

www.niehs.nih.gov

Perfluoroalkyl and Polyfluoroalkyl Substances (PFAS)

Per- and polyfluoroalkyl substances (PFAS) are a large, complex group of synthetic chemicals that have been used in consumer products around the world since about the 1950s. They are ingredients in various everyday products. For example, PFAS are used to keep food from sticking to packaging or...
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Per- and polyfluoroalkyl substances (PFAS) are a large, complex group of synthetic chemicals that have been used in consumer products around the world since about the 1950s. They are ingredients in various everyday products. For example, PFAS are used to keep food from sticking to packaging or cookware, make clothes and carpets resistant to stains, and create firefighting foam that is more effective. PFAS molecules have a chain of linked carbon and fluorine atoms. Because the carbon-fluorine bond is one of the strongest, these chemicals do not degrade easily in the environment.

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That is interesting, this is a screenshot from the veritasium video about C8 or PFOA mimics a fatty acid in the human body.
In the movie about PFAS pollution in Denmark, it is mentioned that an over the counter medicine used for cholesterol is a useful medicine to lower PFAS levels inside the human body. (see post#385 above this post.)

I do not know exactly how fatty acids processing works, the liver has a large and complex function in all of this.
That medicine against chelosterol levels seem to bind to PFAS molecules and then these bounded PFAS molecules leave the body through the intestines, with the stool.



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For the full veritasium video, see this post#74 from the ways to clean up pollution thread :

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This is an update from DIanna Cowern also known as Physics girl, and her husband Kyle Kitzmiller.
About her life being influenced by Long Covid, AKA Post Covid and ME/CFS. And how her friends experience Long covid AKA post covid.

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Everybody has heard about Tardigrades. How indestructible they are. Even in the Startrek series they pop up.
They can survive high temperatures to near 150 degrees celcius, survive near 0K temperature. Tardigrades survive high radiation levels. But how well do they do with acids and other environments...
This documentary is about tardigrades. One could say that tardigrades eat like little vampires.
This documentary also explains about DSUB, a protein that protects DNA against ionizing radiation. Why is it needed, during cryptobiosis, DSUB protects the DNA and as extra DSUB can also prevent or repair DNA damage caused by ionizing radiation. See the documentary.
But Earth has been known to have geomagnetic pole reversal and during these geomagnetic pole reversals, there is no sufficient magnetic field to protect the Earth. There is no proper Earth magnetosphere during the geomagnetic pole reversal. Allowing for high levels of radiation from the solar wind to enter the Earths atmosphere.
For years and years until the geomagnetic pole reversal is complete. Perhaps geomagnetic pole reversal is the reason why so many lifeforms have developed some means of protection against ionizing radiation and strong UV radiation. Like for example us humans, radiotrophic fungi, trees, and perhaps even tardigrades.

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This documentary is in dutch but the google auto generated translation should help make sense of what is going on.

This documentary is about being tired without an obvious cause. As it turns out, when there is inflammation in the body, signals called cytokines from the immunesystem are send to the brain as well to let the brain know to take it easy and slow down in whatever task is being performed.
Saving total energy the body as a whole has, to let the immunesystem perform its "healing & reparing" task.
This inflammation can be the result of the immunesystem responding to a viral cause, or bacterial cause or fungal cause or a combination of the three.

The gut, the digestive system.
The gut, the bowels for example , here bacteria can be found. Most of those are gram negative bacteria and they produce Lipopolysaccharide (LPS). Also known as an endotoxin. And is a complex molecule found in the outer membrane of Gram-negative bacteria.
As it turns out, when eating too much sugar, a lot of that LPS can get into the bloodstream because of multiplying gram negative bacteria causing the immune system in the bloodstream to start producing signal molecules and start inflammation.
As it tuns out, when eating too much fat, LPS can get into the bloodstream by lifting along on the fat molecules , lipids.

So these LPS molecules while lifting on sugar molecules and lipids, can pass either between the intestinal wall cells or through intestinal wall cells, get into the bloodstream and trigger the immune system and this causes inflammation to start.
But, sugar is also a food source for a lot of those Gram-negative bacteria, increasing in numbers and increasing the production of the endotoxin LPS. All while being present in the small and large intestines.

This all is making a person feel tired or getting weird inflammation reactions.
More proof, that eating healthy with lots of fibers, taking enough rest and relax, and having a little bit of exercise to get the muscle mass at a constant level is really important.

Why are fruitsugars different ?
Well, when you eat purely fruitsugars, it is just as bad as refined sugars (because of the sugar consuming bacteria), but when you eat fruit or vegetables, there are compounds in fruit and vegetables that slow down the uptake of LPS (while lifting on lipids) by the intestinal wall cells.

As an extra, the cells inside the bowels AKA the intestinal wall cells, are replaced for new cells every 3 to 5 days. That is why eating enough protein is also important.




About intestinal wall cells
In Dutch :

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How is it possible that cells in the intestines don't continue to divide indefinitely? Scientists at AMOLF, a physics research organization, investigated this.

Our bodies continuously break down enormous numbers of old cells and replace them with new ones. This is crucial, because it clears out diseased and damaged ones. Intestinal cells, in particular, do this rapidly; they are replaced every 3 to 5 days.
But how are these cells kept in check, so they don't divide constantly and lead to tumors? By creating time-lapse videos of intestinal cells, AMOLF researchers found the answer to this question.

Cultured intestine
Despite the fact that intestinal cells are among the fastest growing and dividing cells in the body, their growth is constant and fluctuates little. Therefore, there must be a mechanism that regulates this growth. Previously, scientists believed that for every cell that divides, on average, one also stops dividing. But that theory didn't explain the constant growth.
To determine which mechanism is responsible for the controlled cell divisions, the Dutch scientists used an intestinal organoid. This is a simplified, lab-grown piece of intestine that accurately mimics organ function.
Using a microscope, the researchers took a picture of each individual cell in that piece of intestine every 10 minutes for 65 hours. This allowed them to track which cells were dividing and derive a genealogical tree from it.

Symmetrical Growth
The team concluded that intestinal cells exhibit symmetrical growth: when a mother cell divides, both daughter cells do so as well. If the mother cell doesn't divide, the two daughter cells also remain dormant. This explains the constant cell growth, which reduces the risk of uncontrolled cell division—and thus the development of tumors.
Further research revealed that the mother cell has the final say. It sends signals to the daughter cells telling them whether or not to divide. "I think one of the most remarkable findings of this research," says Jeroen van Zon of AMOLF, "is that cell division in the intestine is strictly symmetrical because the mother instructs it to be so."
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Probiotics:
I have been using probiotics and i noticed these bacteria present in the probiotics pills all are gram positive. If i understand correctly , gram positive means they have no LPS (Lipopolysaccharides) present on their outer membrane. It seems that our immune systems are targeting LPS as hostile by default.
The more i dig into the subject, the more complex it gets.

We have to the host benefical bacteria that are kind of symbiotic, and we have hostile bacteria that are parasitic to the host. The latter we do not want but as we get older we are more prone to be infected by these hostile bacteria.
That is why a healthy gut is so important. Also, premature born babies are more susceptible to hostile bacteria as well. This is common knowledge these days.
Also people with a weak immune system are more susceptible to hostile bacteria. So it is good to have a first line of defense by having the proper benefical symbiotic bacteria.

A lot of probiotics bacteria are sort of natural enenemies against, salmonella, legionella, campylobacter and more bacteria families that are hostile to us.

But if i am not mistaken, we should have not any gram negative bacteria inside our intestines only gram positive bacteria.
Of course, it is not that easy, because it depends on which genus and which family of bacteria. And there are many many different types of bacteria. And there can also be different strains from the same family.
The different strains exhibit different properties, some hostile and some are not hostile to the host. Hosts like us.
The different strains, can be because of mutations in the plasmid or in the bacterial DNA.

So gram positive stained bacteria can be hostile as well depending on the genus and family and strain.
And gram negative stained bacteria can perhaps be beneficial as well depending on the genus and family and strain.
Please correct me if i am wrong.


This is a beginning of an excel/calc sheet i am making about the bacteria inside the probiotic pills i am taking. The probiotics are from golden naturals microbiotica.
I am still learning as a i follow along.


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What is the difference between gram positive and gram negative ? Well , i had to look it up :

www.medicalnewstoday.com

Gram-positive and gram-negative: What is the difference?

Gram-positive and gram-negative bacteria are distinct types of bacteria. Learn more here.
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Gram-positive bacteria show blue or purple after Gram-staining in a laboratory test. They have thick cell walls. Gram-negative bacteria show pink or red on staining and have thin walls. They release different toxins and affect the body in different ways.
Gram-positive and Gram-negative are types of bacteria. There are many different types of Gram-positive and Gram-negative bacteria. These bacteria cause a wide range of different health issues.

People categorize gram-positive and gram-negative bacteria based on their structures and their appearance after Gram staining. Gram staining is a process of dying bacteria and then viewing them beneath a microscope.
This article discusses Gram-positive and Gram-negative bacteria. It also outlines their differences, the infections they cause, and discusses antibiotic resistance.
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Gram-positive and Gram-negative bacteria are two different types of bacteria. One method that scientists use to classify bacteria is Gram staining, which is the most commonly performed laboratory procedure in microbiology.
The term "Gram" refers to a specimen staining method developed by Hans Christian Gram in 1884. It involves staining an organism with crystal violet or methylene blue dye and then observing the organism under a microscope.
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See post #376,
An example of a benefical gram negative bacteria is Escherichia coli , the Nissle 1917 strain, that is a natural enemy of many for the human hostile bacteria like Shigella including the most common of the Salmonella family.

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E. coli presence is also the biggest correlate with suppression or control of C. difficile overgrowth. When they do fecal transplants for C. diff, they are focusing on preserving and transplanting "good" E. coli.
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E. coli presence is also the biggest correlate with suppression or control of C. difficile overgrowth. When they do fecal transplants for C. diff, they are focusing on preserving and transplanting "good" E. coli.
C difficile (Clostridioides difficile) seems to be a nasty bug. If E. coli (Escherichia coli) can help , then perhaps that is an E.coli strain similar to the Nissle 1917 strain that is being sold as Mutaflor probiotic in Germany.
Perhaps when taking Mutaflor instead of fecal transplants, fecal transplants may no longer be necessary.

This article is also very interesting , it describes the symbiotic behavior beween E coli Nissle 1917 and a bacteria called Lactobacillus rhamnosus GG.

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The abundance and biodiversity of intestinal bacteria play a critical role in immune system. Escherichia coli Nissle 1917 (EcN), a tractable probiotic cell has emerged as a ‘smart microbe’ that can provide therapeutic modalities at the sites of disease. Additionally, Lactobacillus rhamnosus GG (LGG) represents one of the key probiotics in clinical studies with the ability to enhance intestinal immunity in symbiosis with other cells. To fully exploit the advantages of EcN and LGG, we optimized the commensal culture medium for LGG and EcN, succeeded by the establishment of a novel fluorescence-based colony quantification. From the metabolite analysis, more lactate was consumed when LGG is co-cultured with EcN; thus, YkgG was further explored as it was foreseen to be the enzyme responsible for lactate conversion to pyruvate. The YkgG enzyme from EcN has Vmax of 64.5 mM min-1 and catalytic ability kcat/Km of 2055 mM-1 min-1, that is 6-fold compared to E. coli MG1655. Co-culture strategy of EcN with LGG in the mimic gastrointestinal tract increased the CFU by 50 % and 40 % within 5 mins and 10 mins, respectively. This practical, feasible, and promising symbiosis system aims to accelerate the application of probiotic in healthy food industries.
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The human gastrointestinal tract comprises at least 500–1000 distinctive bacterial communities with up to 100 trillion microbes, where the homeostatic dysregulation among intestinal commensal microbiota results in intestinal diseases, including constipation, diverticular and inflammatory bowel syndrome [1]. Escherichia coli Nissle 1917 (EcN), an endotoxin-free, biosafety, and non-pathogenic unique strain, has received extensive attention owing to its probiotic function and ability to prevent gastrointestinal diseases [2]. Since 1932, EcN has been registered for the Mutaflor(R) trademark, globally commercialized as a pharmaceutical product in protecting human intestinal immune system for over a century [3], [4].
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