User talk:Unforgvn20

If we are saying he became the khan, then we do not need to capitalize this. If it was written as "he became Khan of Crimea", then it can be capitalized. Mellk (talk) 03:59, 29 November 2024 (UTC) [reply ]

ok thanks Unforgvn20 (talk) 04:02, 29 November 2024 (UTC) [reply ]

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Happy editing! Mellk (talk) 04:08, 29 November 2024 (UTC) [reply ]

Thanks a lot

I love history Unforgvn20 (talk) 04:09, 29 November 2024 (UTC) [reply ]

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Hey can you explain why you sign as kromium? Czarking0 (talk) 16:10, 1 February 2026 (UTC) [reply ]

I tried to change my username to kromium but I guess I couldn't do it properly, so I am not super experienced in settings kromium (talk) 21:07, 1 February 2026 (UTC) [reply ]

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SatnaamIN (talk) 04:32, 11 May 2026 (UTC) [reply ]

@SaTnamZIN: thank you unforgvn20 (talk) 04:44, 11 May 2026 (UTC) [reply ]

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Thanks for letting me know, i will remove the categories unforgvn20 (talk) 12:42, 17 May 2026 (UTC) [reply ]

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Hello there, Unforgvn20. Have you been using an LLM (or an "AI chatbot" like ChatGPT) for your edits to Susamam? If so, could you please WP:LLMDISCLOSE:

Thank you, --gurkubondinn 12:46, 2 June 2026 (UTC) [reply ]

I used chatgpt to get the music video summary, I reviewed every output manually.

Some of the prompts:

"summarize the plot of susamam using sources like this for wikipedia in less than 10 lines https://www.theguardian.com/music/2019/nov/06/words-are-our-weapon-blistering-power-turkish-protest-rap-susamam" unforgvn20 (talk) 01:53, 3 June 2026 (UTC) [reply ]

Thanks for disclosing AI usage but if you reviewed every output manually, how are there wikitext errors such as backticks (```) and reflist template in between categories in the source code? A manual review can easily detect such errors. Sddarealone (talk) 02:26, 3 June 2026 (UTC) [reply ]

I reviewed the content manually but wiki code I relied to the chatgpt somewhat unforgvn20 (talk) 02:48, 3 June 2026 (UTC) [reply ]

Okay, but that is not allowed here on English Wikipedia. --gurkubondinn 08:59, 3 June 2026 (UTC) [reply ]

ok let me fix the wiki html from chatgpt unforgvn20 (talk) 22:50, 3 June 2026 (UTC) [reply ]

I saw that you had cleared up the mistakes in the article which is good but left this in the edit summary while removing the proposed deletion WP:PROD. You said it wasn't AI translated but you clearly generated content used in the article using ChatGPT (AI chatbot) as mentioned in your above replies. Please don't lie about AI usage as this is unacceptable on Wikipedia. See WP:LIEAI and WP:NOLLM Sddarealone (talk) 09:31, 4 June 2026 (UTC) [reply ]

I m not lying, I said I used AI to summarize guardian article and manually reviewed all content.

The initial translatation was done using Wiki's own tool, not AI unforgvn20 (talk) 09:38, 4 June 2026 (UTC) [reply ]

Which isn't allowed, as I have already explained to you. --gurkubondinn 09:40, 4 June 2026 (UTC) [reply ]

whats not exactly allowed which Wiki policy are you relying on unforgvn20 (talk) 09:41, 4 June 2026 (UTC) [reply ]

Using AI to summarize the plot, get the video summary, wiki code or to generate any article contents in any shape or form, including "formatting". It does not matter if you have reviewed the content manually or not. The relevant guideline is WP:NOLLM, and the relevant policy is WP:EPAI. See WP:AIPOLICY and WP:AIGUIDELINE for a full list. --gurkubondinn 10:02, 4 June 2026 (UTC) [reply ]

@Gurkubondinn I'm not reinstating the PROD as the issues were mostly cleared but if the editor persists on denying AI usage, you can pursue this matter to WP:AINB. Anyways the article will require a complete review including it's references. Sddarealone (talk) 09:46, 4 June 2026 (UTC) [reply ]

Yeah, after a WP:DEPROD it has been permanently cancelled and needs to be dealt with at AfD instead. (削除) If this continues, it might need to be pursued with an ANI filing since it is a conduct issue. (削除ここまで) However, I am not particularly inclined to filing at ANI in general.

They removed the {{AI-generated}} tag as well, but I have reinstated that. Removing (some of) the symptoms of AI usage does not fix the actual problem (that the article was AI-generated), and the tag should remain as long as the generated text remains in the article. As a sidenote, this is why I try to not BEAN the obvious AISIGNS someone leaves in articles. --gurkubondinn 09:58, 4 June 2026 (UTC) [reply ]

and most of the content does not exist in Turkish , I wrote most of it directly in English unforgvn20 (talk) 09:40, 4 June 2026 (UTC) [reply ]

Can you share the ChatGPT link just so that we understand how you took the content for the article? Sddarealone (talk) 09:50, 4 June 2026 (UTC) [reply ]

https://chatgpt.com/share/6a214c84-7ea0-83ea-b2b6-f6f8fc795cfb unforgvn20 (talk) 10:00, 4 June 2026 (UTC) [reply ]

Thank you for sharing this. This is not allowed under the WP:NOLLM guideline. This ChatGPT session shows that you did not write the text yourself, but it was generated by ChatGPT instead. I am more than happy to assume good faith and that you were simply not aware of this, so please don't do it again. --gurkubondinn 10:04, 4 June 2026 (UTC) [reply ]

Actually I did write the content, if you compare the chatgpt output and actual content you can see they are very different.

The wiki code were created by chatgpt but I cleaned most of it. unforgvn20 (talk) 10:18, 4 June 2026 (UTC) [reply ]

I also used chatgpt to proofread my content, this should be allowed unforgvn20 (talk) 10:23, 4 June 2026 (UTC) [reply ]

Could you please share that session as well? --gurkubondinn 10:24, 4 June 2026 (UTC) [reply ]

https://chatgpt.com/share/6a2156ad-afc8-83ea-9cca-83dc82191afc

https://chatgpt.com/share/6a215758-2908-83ea-930a-b748c14d486d unforgvn20 (talk) 10:46, 4 June 2026 (UTC) [reply ]

I have made a few observations regarding the sources as the content was taken from LLM.

1. For music video section, genius.com, a user generated source was used as reference to show the summary. It is generally unreliable as per WP:RSPSOURCES. Press CTRL + F and search "Genius" to easily find it.

2. For many references, ChatGPT hallucinated and included the retrieval dates of 2019 from the Turkish article date of references instead of 2026. If you manually included references instead, the dates would have been of May or June 2026 and not September 2019.

These are simple observations and more can be found out which will need to be cleaned up by you as the article's content was taken from ChatGPT. Tagging @Gurkubondinn for confirmation of the same.

As a general note, please avoid using LLMs to source content for the articles. You can also use sandbox to create drafts that can be published later into mainspace. Sddarealone (talk) 13:11, 4 June 2026 (UTC) [reply ]

Also before removing the maintenance templates (the top boxes) please tag us here or on the article talk page that the issues pointed out have been cleared. We will remove it ourselves if there is progress on the article. Good luck. Sddarealone (talk) 15:48, 4 June 2026 (UTC) [reply ]

Ok thank you unforgvn20 (talk) 16:19, 4 June 2026 (UTC) [reply ]

I removed the genius and fixed the other references @Sddarealone unforgvn20 (talk) 00:34, 5 June 2026 (UTC) [reply ]

I checked your recent edits and found that point 1 has been addressed that's good but 2 is not. You did remove the genius.com references as requested but replaced them with YouTube, another highly unreliable reference as per WP:RSPYT.

All you need to do is find one reliable news/journal/books etc. source that explains the music video summary very well and that will be enough. You can use that as the reference instead of these unreliable refs. Sddarealone (talk) 14:16, 5 June 2026 (UTC) [reply ]

ok I replaced youtube with two other refs unforgvn20 (talk) 22:13, 5 June 2026 (UTC) [reply ]

I had cleaned up the section using your provided refs and now removed the unreliable sources template but as the content was generated using AI, do not yet remove that template. Consult with @Gurkubondinn before doing so.

I also noticed a few issues. How many rappers exactly are in this song? Some ref says it's 20 MCs, some 18 or 17. This is ambiguous and needs to be fixed. Also find a ref for Istanbul hashtag as I can't find it in your provided sources. Best wishes. Sddarealone (talk) 23:03, 5 June 2026 (UTC) [reply ]

it's exactly 19, not sure why some articles count it as 20 or 18, Tahribat-i Isyan is a duo.

I added a ref for Istanbul hashtag

Thank you unforgvn20 (talk) 02:16, 6 June 2026 (UTC) [reply ]

@Gurkubondinn can you please check unforgvn20 (talk) 20:58, 6 June 2026 (UTC) [reply ]

Is there any text in the article that has been copied from ChatGPT? ‐‐gurkubondinn 03:33, 9 June 2026 (UTC) [reply ]

The article Susamam has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

AI generated translation of the Turkish article. See tr:Susamam. Also backticks and the reflist in between the categories in source code is very telling of AI use.

You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the {{proposed deletion/dated}} notice, but please explain why in your edit summary or on the article's talk page.

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If the proposed deletion has already been carried out, you may request undeletion of the article at any time. Sddarealone (talk) 23:15, 2 June 2026 (UTC) [reply ]

The page is not translated from Turkish using AI, it's translated using the Wikipedia s own translation tool, however it was extended after that. unforgvn20 (talk) 01:58, 3 June 2026 (UTC) [reply ]

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