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Censorship

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Hey, this article is looking goood these days - hurrah! One question, from the intro:

Pramoedya's outspoken and often politically-charged writings face censorship in his native land to the present day.

Does anyone know what instances of recent (post-Suharto, I assume) censorship is this is referring to? Unless I missed it, it's not mentioned in the rest of the text, but it seems important, so it should be explained more fully, with a citation. Anyone? CDC (talk) 05:07, 14 December 2005 (UTC) [reply ]

  • This is not accurate anymore, that statement should be removed.

Yes, this has been addressed. (Wallamoose (talk) 18:13, 14 October 2008 (UTC))[reply ]

Name

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Someone knowledgeable about such matters should add a sentence on why he's know as Pramoedya, not as Toer. Indonesia names can be confusing to those not familiar with the onomastic conventions. Interlingua talk email 22:59, 5 July 2006 (UTC) [reply ]

This was done. (Wallamoose (talk) 18:15, 14 October 2008 (UTC))[reply ]

Lovely article

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This is a fine article about the career of Pramoedya. Thank you to the many editors who have honored this literary great by writing his career up in this manner. (Wallamoose (talk) 18:15, 14 October 2008 (UTC))[reply ]

Contradictory

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The article claims he was not allowed to have even a pencil and that he narrated his works orally, but then later states that he was later able to write the stories down.

This needs to be clarified. I think there is little doubt that he WAS writing things on paper--scraps of paper, I think I have read/heard--and that somehow he got manuscripts back to Java. This I have never seen explained. While the tetralogy--a fictional story--could conceivably have been remembered and written back on Java (but not what happened, I believe), for other works like his book on comfort women, that is simply not possible.

I don't have interviews and other references on hand, so I can't resolve this contradiction, but perhaps others can.

One simple--but not ideal--solution would be to add the words "at times" before the statement about the pencil. I don't know if regulations changed, or the authorities looked away...and that could influence the accuracy even of this simple patch.

Either way, the article is obviously "wrong" because of the contradiction. (Dewobroto (talk) 03:16, 30 November 2017 (UTC))[reply ]

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