Talk:Christina Rossetti
Review : April 14, 2026. (Reviewed version ).
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Unsigned Comments
[edit ]The above comments are unsigned and are thereby eligible for deletion. Does anyone object?Lestrade (talk) 17:49, 5 December 2007 (UTC)Lestrade[reply ]
Lestrade, those unsigned comments are purely opinion, unprofessional, basely and grossly unqualified, refer to no critical sources, and the list goes on. They most definitely should be deleted. Be my guest. Miloluvr (talk) 20:05, 25 February 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
As no one has got to it, I agree as well and I deleted the section - I hope thats all right.
Rrose Selavy (talk) 21:38, 7 July 2009 (UTC) [reply ]
Expansion
[edit ]Just to warn people, I'm going to do a major expansion of this article over the few days - as in a complete rewrite, with all new sources. My model is the FA Emily Dickinson. There is more than enough published information about Christina for this to be featured. Crystallina (talk) 22:28, 11 April 2008 (UTC) [reply ]
- Ok Coraleegale (talk) 21:52, 12 March 2024 (UTC) [reply ]
- Both of her parents were with roots in what is now Italy, so how can her ethnicity be English 85.94.248.27 (talk) 14:46, 24 April 2024 (UTC) [reply ]
Deletion of Popular refs and single poems
[edit ]Most of what was listed under popular refs are quotes from her poems available and linked under Wikiquote. Half the poems listed are single poems. I have listed only collected works (as is standard). The article still needs the above overhaul ... any time now... Spanglej (talk) 15:19, 31 May 2010 (UTC) [reply ]
Restoration of unexplained deletions
[edit ]I noticed that large, informative swathes of this article, and appropriate illustrations, had been suddenly deleted without explanation or discussion at the end of May, leaving little more than a stub. That is not good enough for this writer, one whose reputation continues to grow. I have restored them pending some justification from the (anonymous) deleter. However I do agree with Spanglej that the various quotations in Popular refs were superfluous. Straw Cat (talk) 01:09, 26 June 2010 (UTC) [reply ]
Deletion of Popular refs
[edit ]I have taken out the popular refs re deletion comments above (May 2010) - mostly film and TV refs re WP:TRIV. The edit of 26 June 2010 only removed trivia.
In popular culture
- The poem "Remember" features prominently in the 1955 film noir Kiss Me Deadly .
- An extract from "Goblin Market" is quoted on the British television series Doctor Who in the episode "Midnight" and also in the episode "Cat Among the Pigeons" of the TV homage series Agatha Christie's Poirot .
- A line from one of her poems, "Beyond the sea of death..." was used as the title of an episode of the Alfred Hitchcock Hour. Her works were also referred to in the same episode of the TV drama.
- Her poem " A birthday " was used in classic sitcom Cheers in the Episode 112 The Spy Who Came In For A Cold One .. by the spy/poet.
- Her poem "None other Lamb" was set to music by American Idol songwriting winner Scott Krippayne on his 2008 album, "Simple Worship."
- The poem "Who Has Seen the Wind?" appears during the credits of the time-manipulating puzzle/plat former game Braid. The poem is arranged in a chronologically palindromic nature, with the last four lines of the poem appearing during the beginning of the credits, and the initial four lines of the poem appearing at the end of the credits.
- The poem above "Who Has Seen the Wind" has also been set to music by the darkwave band Unto Ashes.
- Rossetti poems are narrated by Jonathan Frid on the "Dark Shadows" TV soundtrack, originally released on June 27, 1966.
- "When i am dead, my dearest" was also used in the second season of TV show Monk [1] in the episode "Mr. Monk and the very, very old man". The poem is narrated by Karen in a documentary about the oldest man in the world, later to be murdered so an old time capsule is not dug up.
- Guillemots front man Fyfe Dangerfield composed for "A Better Resurrection" a choral setting which was performed at The Lichfield Festival in 2000.
- The poem "Crying, My Little One" appears on Natalie Merchant's Leave Your Sleep album.
Spanglej (talk) 02:18, 26 June 2010 (UTC) [reply ]
References
pieces of the article turn up in two books for children
[edit ]Quite alarmed to find today, lines from this article turning up in two children's text books. I guess that is the worrying aspect of WP. Ideally these articles change constantly, unlike books. Spanglej (talk)
- What's the problem - are they factually incorrect? Straw Cat (talk) 10:31, 26 June 2010 (UTC) [reply ]
GA review
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Nominator: ArthurTheGardener (talk · contribs) 16:43, 5 April 2026 (UTC) [reply ]
Reviewer: Tim riley (talk · contribs) 11:58, 11 April 2026 (UTC) [reply ]
Starting review
[edit ]Me again! Beginning first read-through. More anon. Tim riley talk 11:58, 11 April 2026 (UTC) [reply ]
The use of Christian names rather than surnames is ticklish, but I think you have got it right. Otherwise only one possible red flag here, but I have a few optional suggestions you may like to consider.
- You are curiously inconsistent about using commas with adverbs and adverbial phrases at the beginning of sentences. Thus, among others,
- "In the 1840s, the Rossetti family (with comma)
- "From 1842 onward Christina began collecting (without comma)
- "In 1847 Christina's grandfather (without comma)
- "Between 1864 and 1866, Christina became (with comma)
- "In her later decades, Christina suffered (with comma)
- I share the view of Plain Words that on the principle that stops should not be used unless they are needed these AmE-style commas are not wanted here. But consistency either way would be good.
- Other points:
- "born on 5 December, 1830" – why the comma? Not customary in BrE.
- "the newly opened Regent's Park, which Christina visited regularly" – "regularly" as in at predetermined intervals or do you just mean "frequently", as in "often"?
- "increasing financial troubles due to a deterioration" – In AmE "due to" is accepted as a compound preposition on a par with "owing to", but in BrE it is not universally so regarded. "Owing to" or, better, "because of" is safer.
- "Of labor you shall find the sum" – jarring use of American spelling: see this and this for the correct English spelling.
- "It has been suggested that Christina's 1860 poem" – This has the look of a weasly phrase about it and I think it would be as well to say inline who suggested it and when.
- " was lauded by Gerard Manley Hopkins, Algernon Charles Swinburne and Tennyson" – seems odd to give the first two their Christian names but to render the third by surname alone.
- "After its publication, Christina Rossetti was named the natural successor to Elizabeth Barrett Browning" – this is one point I am really bothered by. Who named her, on what authority, and how widely was the nomination recognised?
- "including the poet Swinburne" – he has a blue link earlier and doesn't need another here.
- "the linguist Charles Cayley" – I never know what a linguist is: is it someone fluent in foreign languages or someone expert in linguistics?
- "his appearance of sobriety and purity was emphasized" – but modern BrE "idealised" elsewhere.
- "Academics studying her work in the 1970s saw beyond the lyrical sweetness to her mastery of prosody and versification." – Who says so? Without a citation this is pure WP:OR.
That's all from me. Over to you. I shan't bother putting the review on hold unless you would like me to. – Tim riley talk 12:48, 11 April 2026 (UTC) [reply ]
- Thank you for your useful comments, Tim riley: I'll get to fixing these issues as soon as I can. That may be in a few days, as I'm just about to go into hospital to have my tricky hip fixed, but I'll have plenty of editing time afterwards! ArthurTheGardener (talk) 08:02, 12 April 2026 (UTC) [reply ]
- All the best for your hip operation! I think they are pretty good at it these days. Tim riley talk 08:33, 12 April 2026 (UTC) [reply ]
- All's good, thank you, Tim riley, and I think I've addressed those problems now. I'd be interested in your further thoughts, when you have time. ArthurTheGardener (talk) 08:34, 14 April 2026 (UTC) [reply ]
- All the best for your hip operation! I think they are pretty good at it these days. Tim riley talk 08:33, 12 April 2026 (UTC) [reply ]
(削除) Note (削除ここまで)
[edit ](削除) See above. The nominator may be hors de combat for a while, and I do not propose to put the review formally on hold as there is very little wrong with the article as it stands, and I'll keep the review open until ArthurTheGardener is back on parade. Tim riley talk 17:58, 12 April 2026 (UTC) (削除ここまで)[reply ]
Well, that went well. The citations will do at GA level, but if you were taking the article to FAC you'd need to address the capitalisation of Book and webpage titles. Whatever the publishers may have done, we capitalise the lot: so "Christina Rossetti: the patience of style" would be tweaked to "Christina Rossetti: The Patience of Style" and "CHRISTINA ROSSETTI: Learning Not to Be First" would be changed to "Christina Rossetti: Learning Not to Be First" (and you could make ref 44 consistent with refs 39–41 or are they two different editions?) At FAC level you'd also need to rationalise the bibliographic details of your Sources section – some missing locations and some missing ISBNs. But what we have got here now meets the GA criteria, in my view. I am pleased to promote the article to GA:
GA review – see WP:WIAGA for criteria
- Is it reasonably well written?
- Is it factually accurate and verifiable ?
- A. References to sources:
- Well referenced.
- B. Citation of reliable sources where necessary:
- Well referenced.
- C. No original research:
- A. References to sources:
- Is it broad in its coverage?
- A. Major aspects:
- B. Focused:
- A. Major aspects:
- Is it neutral ?
- Fair representation without bias:
- Fair representation without bias:
- Is it stable?
- No edit wars, etc:
- No edit wars, etc:
- Does it contain images to illustrate the topic?
- A. Images are copyright tagged, and non-free images have fair use rationales:
- Well illustrated.
- B. Images are provided where possible and appropriate, with suitable captions:
- Well illustrated.
- A. Images are copyright tagged, and non-free images have fair use rationales:
- Overall:
- Pass or Fail:
- Pass or Fail:
PS: I was at Rufford Old Hall at the weekend and was pleased to see poems by Rossetti, in beautiful handwriting, attached to stakes in some of the flowerbeds – a nice touch by National Trust staff. I hope you are doing well after your hip operation. Tim riley talk 10:32, 14 April 2026 (UTC) [reply ]
- Hi Tim riley, and thanks for getting to this so quickly. I'll have a look at the points you made and address what I can - so far I'm doing well, I have plenty of painkillers and an excellent physio, so it will be nice to have a project or two to keep working on while I recover. I'll make a point of dropping by Rufford Old Hall once I get back on my feet - I know it well. The gardens are spectacular! ArthurTheGardener (talk) 11:40, 14 April 2026 (UTC) [reply ]
- AtG, I'll pass on your comment about the gardens at Rufford to my brother, who is a volunteer gardener there one day a week. I think he'll be chuffed at the unsolicited testimonial. I wish you a speedy return to mobility. Tim riley talk 11:47, 14 April 2026 (UTC) [reply ]
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