User talk:Beetstra
No signs that the Arbitration Committee is in any form willing to change for the better (as expected).
For years we have been complaining about anchoring, about railroading, about bias. When someone comes before ArbCom, ArbCom has to sanction, no matter how feeble the evidence is. They do not care to properly present the evidence that they make decisions on. They do not care whether the editor has been trying to improve since. And when an editor comes again in front of ArbCom, they will just increase the sanctions - they have been here before so they must be guilty.
It is becoming more and more clear that there is no will, nor possibility to improve.1 This institute should be abandoned - NOW
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I will respond to talk messages where they started, trying to keep discussions in one place (you may want to watch this page for some time after adding a question). Otherwise I will clearly state where the discussion will be moved/copied to. Though, with the large number of pages I am watching, it may be wise to contact me here as well if you need a swift response. If I forget to answer, poke me.
I preserve the right not to answer to non-civil remarks, or subjects which are covered in this talk-header.
There are several discussions about my link removal here, and in my archives. If you want to contact me about my view of this policy, please read and understand WP:NOT, WP:EL, WP:SPAM and WP:A, and read the discussions on my talkpage or in my archives first.
External links are not meant to tunnel people away from the wikipedia.
Hence, I will remove external links on pages where I think they do not add to the page (per WP:NOT#REPOSITORY and WP:EL), or when they are added in a way that wikipedia defines as spam (understand that wikipedia defines spam as: '... wide-scale external link spamming ...', even if the link is appropriate; also read this). This may mean that I remove links, while similar links are already there or which are there already for a long time. Still, the question is not whether your link should be there, the question may be whether those other links should be there (again, see the wording of the policies and guidelines).
Please consider the alternatives before re-adding the link:
- If the link contains information, use the information to add content to the article, and use the link as a reference (content is not 'see here for more information').
- Add an appropriate linkfarm (you can consider to remove other links covered there).
- Incorporate the information into one of the sister projects.
- Add the link to other mediawiki projects aimed at advertiseing (see e.g. this)
If the linkspam of a certain link perseveres, I will not hesitate to report it to the wikiproject spam for blacklisting (even if the link would be appropriate for wikipedia). It may be wise to consider the alternatives before things get to that point.
Please consider if the link you want to add complies with the policies and guidelines.
If you have other questions, or still have questions on my view of the external link policy, disagree with me, or think I made a mistake in removing a link you added, please poke me by starting a new subject on my talk-page. If you absolutely want an answer, you can try to poke the people at WT:EL or WT:WPSPAM on your specific case. Also, regarding link, I can be contacted on IRC, channel [1].
I convert inline URL's into references and convert referencing styles to a consistent format. My preferred style is the style provided by cite.php (<ref> and <references/>). When other mechanisms are mainly (but not consistently) used (e.g. {{ref }}/{{note }}/{{cite }}-templates) I will assess whether referencing would benefit from the cite.php-style. Feel free to revert these edits when I am wrong.
Converting inline URLs in references may result in data being retrieved from unreliable sources. In these cases, the link may have been removed, and replaced by a {{cn }}. If you feel that the page should be used as a reference (complying with wp:rs!!), please discuss that on the talkpage of the page, or poke me by starting a new subject on my talk-page
Note: I am working with some other developers on mediawiki to expand the possibilities of cite.php, our attempts can be followed here and here. If you like these features and want them enabled, please vote for these bugs.
I am in general against deletion, except when the page really gives misinformation, is clear spam or copyvio. Otherwise, these pages may need to be expanded or rewritten. For very short articles there are the different {{stub }} marks, which clearly state that the article is to be expanded. For articles that do not state why they are notable, I will add either {{importance }} or {{notability }}. In my view there is a distinct difference between these two templates, while articles carrying one of these templates may not be notable, the first template does say the article is probably notable enough, but the contents does not state that (yet). The latter provides a clear concern that the article is not notable, and should probably be {{prod }}ed or {{AfD }}ed. Removing importance-tags does not take away the backlog, it only hides from attention, deleting pages does not make the database smaller. If you contest the notability/importance of an article, please consider adding an {{expert-subject }} tag, or raise the subject on an appropriate wikiproject. Remember, there are many, many pages on the wikipedia, many need attention, so maybe we have to live with a backlog.
Having said this, I generally delete the {{expand }}-template on sight. The template is in most cases superfluous, expansion is intrinsic to the wikipedia (for stubs, expansion is already mentioned in that template).
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Apparent Temperature Calculator
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- calculator.institute: Linksearch en (insource) - meta - de - fr - simple - wikt:en - wikt:fr • Spamcheck • MER-C X-wiki • gs • Reports: Links on en - COIBot - COIBot-Local • Discussions: tracked - advanced - RSN • COIBot-Link, Local, & XWiki Reports - Wikipedia: en - fr - de • Google: search • meta • Domain: domaintools • AboutUs.com
Hello,
from these two websites: https://calculator.academy/apparent-temperature-calculator/ and https://calculator.institute/apparent-temperature-calculator-tool/ seems better the second one which are you reverting. Yes, both are bad and spam. Why have you (or anybody alse) chosen the first one? Zagothal (talk) 09:49, 21 January 2025 (UTC) [reply ]
- @Zagothal Hi, thanks for the analysis. I had to look this back. I noticed COIBot reporting calculator.institute (Wikipedia:WikiProject_Spam/LinkReports/calculator.institute, or better m:User:COIBot/XWiki/calculator.institute), that one was spammed, 2 wikis, 4 (likely related) IPs, link (re)placement). So because it was spammed I reverted (probably without looking what I was always reverting TO), and then blacklisted the link.
I've now asked for a report for the other, but that one IP and three named accounts (excluding now myself) who added it. So I doubt (for now) that it was spammed, but that does indeed not mean that we should have that link on our pages. Most calculator-websites or calculator-app-websites do not belong in our external link sections, with only few exceptions. Thanks! Dirk Beetstra T C 14:29, 21 January 2025 (UTC) [reply ]
Administrators' newsletter – February 2025
[edit ]News and updates for administrators from the past month (January 2025).
- Administrators can now nuke pages created by a user or IP address from the last 90 days, up from the initial 30 days. T380846
- A '
Recreated' tag will now be added to pages that were created with the same title as a page which was previously deleted and it can be used as a filter in Special:RecentChanges and Special:NewPages. T56145
- The arbitration case Palestine-Israel articles 5 has been closed.
Nomination for deletion of Template:ClickBankSummary2
[edit ]Template:ClickBankSummary2 has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the entry on the Templates for discussion page. – Jonesey95 (talk) 17:59, 9 February 2025 (UTC) [reply ]
Administrators' newsletter – March 2025
[edit ]News and updates for administrators from the past month (February 2025).
- A request for comment is open to discuss whether AI-generated images (meaning those wholly created by generative AI, not human-created images modified with AI tools) should be banned from use in articles.
- A series of 22 mini-RFCs that double-checked consensus on some aspects and improved certain parts of the administrator elections process has been closed (see the summary of the changes).
- A request for comment is open to gain consensus on whether future administrator elections should be held.
- A new filter has been added to the Special:Nuke tool, which allows administrators to filter for pages in a range of page sizes (in bytes). This allows, for example, deleting pages only of a certain size or below. T378488
- Non-administrators can now check which pages are able to be deleted using the Special:Nuke tool. T376378
- The 2025 appointees for the Ombuds commission are だ*ぜ, Arcticocean, Ameisenigel, Emufarmers, Faendalimas, Galahad, Nehaoua, Renvoy, Revi C., RoySmith, Teles and Zafer as members, with Vermont serving as steward-observer.
- Following the 2025 Steward Elections, the following editors have been appointed as stewards: 1234qwer1234qwer4, AramilFeraxa, Daniuu, KonstantinaG07, MdsShakil and XXBlackburnXx.
Could you unblock him? I've submitted a request for a global lock. Cheers. Jay Cubby 20:01, 9 March 2025 (UTC) [reply ]