Talk:Peter David

While I admire Peter David, I think this article is a bit too long and detailed. It's supposed to give a brief, encyclopedic overview of his life. Instead I learn everything from his writing habits (the morning for novels, afternoons for comics) to his "public persona" (how many other authors have a section like this?), to his favorite TV shows (I'm a fan of "Doctor Who" and "The West Wing" too--So what?) This article is 6,156 words. Literary legend Cormac McCarthy's pagee is 1,889 words. Just because Peter David puts a lot more information about himself out there, doesn't mean this article should have to cite all of it. 74.69.11.229 (talk) 13:16, 23 March 2013 (UTC) [reply ]

There is no policy or guideline I know of that says articles have to be "brief", nor should an article's length be determined by the length of another. McCarthy's page is 1,889 words? So what? William Shakespeare's four times longer.

As for the Public Persona and Personal life sections, a number of biographical articles have them. They are not found in all articles because not all biographical subjects are outspoken or controversial people known for a particular public image, and because article material is limited by what can be found in secondary sources. The Peter David article has such a section for the same reason that Rob Liefeld has an extensive Criticism section, when Jim Lee does not: It's merited by the different lives they lead, the sources available for that material, etc. Nightscream (talk) 16:14, 23 March 2013 (UTC) [reply ]

First,Nightscream, I'd like to thank you for your work on this article which is on my watchlist because I know someone related to PAD. It's reassuring to know that this article has a dedicated editor. That being said, I did notice that it is rated as a C class for quality scale for bios. What steps could be taken to get it up to B class? I agree with the above contributor that PAD's list of favorite things is long and trivial and does not rise to the level of encyclopedic. I also see that there are sections that have many one or two sentences paragraphs, which I always find irritating. On the other hand, I see nowhere that a Wikipedia article should be brief. But I would like to see this article tightened up to rise to a B level. I also noticed it was C class for quality of Comic articles. One place to start would be to look at A class comic articles and see how they contrast with this article. Cheers A Softer Answer (talk) 16:13, 24 March 2013 (UTC) [reply ]

While wandering around I found this: Wikipedia:Article size. It might make interesting reading. A Softer Answer (talk) 01:47, 28 March 2013 (UTC) [reply ]

There are some factual errors here and some material which is doubtful.

PAD was given the impression that he was fired from Spectacular Spider man because 'Shooter wanted him gone', but that version of events has been challenged as can be seen in the comments (which PAD contributed to) on this page of Shooter's blog: http://www.jimshooter.com/2011/06/answer-to-comment.html

The 'universal' pressure Owsley described feeling, it is suggested, might actually be attributed to some of the other editors uncomfortable with the sales/writing conflict of interest that had caused a problem with one of PAD's predecessors in the sales dept. This may merely have been a misunderstanding on Owsley's part because Shooter was pressurising him to take a stronger editorial hand with Peter David. The comments on Shooter's blog do not actually make it clear whether or not Shooter actually had David fired from this role; but the implication would appear to be that Shooter is stating that he did not. Whilst not directly addressing this particular question, PAD does confirm that he saw things the same way Shooter did regarding what editorial was asking of him.

The same article's comments also point out (and PAD concurs)that he was not made a pariah by Shooter. Contrary to what this article states he was engaged as writer on the Hulk whilst Shooter was still Editor in Chief. Bob Harras was indeed editor of the Hulk at that time but he did not succeed Shooter as EiC. Shooter was fired in 1987 and Harras was not appointed to that role until eight years later in 1995 (a rather drastic factual error...).

Regarding the tone of the article, might I suggest that protestations of the subject's innocence regarding the conflict of interest issue without even having raised the question of why this was perceived as a problem, give this text the air of a hagiography rather than an encyclopaedic entry. Indeed there are numerous parts of this text which that might be said of.

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Peter's wife is reporting that he passed away last night. We have a WP:BLPSPS on reporting this, but should stay tuned for usable sources, as well as getting the specific date (i.e., before or after midnight.) -- Nat Gertler (talk) 17:49, 25 May 2025 (UTC) [reply ]