Talk:Daniel Day-Lewis

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• Very interesting praise from other famous actors. J. Bardem said: "I am excited just because im inches away from the best actor alive ever. That excites me. I am overwhelmed", while S. Penn said: "Daniel Day-Lewis may very well be the greatest actor ever recorded on the screen." --Harac (talk) 18:58, 8 January 2008 (UTC) [reply ]

"He made his debut in Cry, The Beloved Country wearing extensive makeup for his role as a Black boy." I assume this is a joke, since the film was made several years before he was born. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.165.8.170 (talk) 05:37, August 26, 2007 (UTC)

The film yes, but the production of the play was not. The Filmaker 19:58, 26 August 2007 (UTC) [reply ]

An "English/Irish actor"? In what way is Daniel Day-Lewis Irish? He's an English actor, full stop.

Day-Lewis has identified himself as Irish, his Irish-born father brought his children up to consider themselves as much Irish as English. The source for this is an interview on RTÉ's Late Late Show, although I don't have an exact reference to hand. He also lives in Ireland. --Ryano 22:50, 28 March 2006 (UTC) [reply ]

He also took out Irish citizenship. The Filmaker 22:31, 29 March 2006 (UTC) [reply ]

On a recent episode of Parkinson he repeatedly referred to himself as a middle class Englishman, not once did he say he was Irish, so I think the RTE interview should be taken with a pinch of salt. It sounds to me like he likes to endear himself to his audience, so claiming on Irish TV that he is Irish is neither here nor there. I think a better description would be to describe him as an English actor who has taken Irish citizenship. There is a growing tendency at Wikipedia to try and claim anyone of merit to be of Irish stock, no matter how tenuous. No better is this point shown than in the Robert De Niro discussion: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Robert_De_Niro — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.5.101.50 (talk • contribs)

'so I think the RTE interview should be taken with a pinch of salt' Yes of course... that's why he now lives in Ireland and has an Irish passport. Superdude rolls his eyes Superdude99 07:34, 22 May 2006 (UTC) [reply ]

So, where's the consistency? Check out Peter Frampton - a British musician who has taken American citizenship.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Frampton

Notice how he's not Anglo-American? I think it's time the Irish reference on Day-Lewis' page was removed. He is NOT Irish no matter how much you wish he was.

I don't think the article is right in saying that he became an Irish citizen in 1993, the fact is that as the child of an Irish born person, he was at birth automatically an Irish citizen. Just because he was born in England does not make him English, he obvious feels himself to be Irish( which he legally, from the day he was born is). I think the best way to describe him would be to say that he was is a English born, Irish actor.

Ah, but he doesn't consider himself Irish. Try to get a copy of his recent 'Parkinson' interview where he refers to himself as English. One Irish parent does not make a child Irish, especially when the other parent is English. Being born in England and growing up in England makes him English/British, not Irish.

He lives in Ireland, uses an Irish passport, I think it is safe to say that he considers himself Irish.

Okay, so Madonna is British! [sarcasm] There's no reasoning with the Irish mafia - have it your own way if you must.

Daniel Day Lewis lurks still to this day on the set of bag end in NZ, think about it...

It ceases to amaze me. Not one drop of english blood in his veins. Only by geographical chance is he English yet he is described as such. Its obvious 800 years of blood wasn't enough. The letter and disinformation has replaced famine and the bludgeon. That's all right though we will just outcite references you found five we'll find six. Like a virus justifying and sustaining it's existence the english latch onto seperate entities for survival and validity. BTW your not Irish by birth if your father is you have to apply for it. Subsequently prove it. Which of course proves intent. Stop spreading lies. His mother is Jewish. His father is Irish. He lives in Ireland. He went through the trouble of getting his citizenship from his ancestral home (a generation removed). Describing your youth as middle class english has no bearing on genetic composition. AND if what that joker 8 posts above said is true than he was humoring the english people as well as the irish leaving no clear intent or allegiance. Point void. Genetically speaking he is Irish-Jewish. He went through the hoops of becoming an Irish citizen. He lives in Ireland. Stop taking brilliance that's not yours. Centuries of profit via brutality and oppression will suit you fine thank you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Robert holmes (talk • contribs) 07:30, 22 August 2008 (UTC) [reply ]

Get over yourself and that stupid big chip on your shoulder. He's not Irish, you buffoon, and that's the end of it. Geographical chance? Crikey. Listen everyone! I'm really Irish but "geographical chance" makes everyone assume I'm English - how awful! Oh, woe is me! No one understnds! Grow up. Not everyone you want to be Irish actually is, you know. Wikipedia is being ruined by trolls such as yourself altering people's nationality to Irish. Guv2006 (talk) 18:10, 12 November 2009 (UTC) [reply ]

wow, I thought people like you only existed in sterotypes.

Anywho, those all important categories seem fine as they are know. Irish father means Irish descent, born and growing up in England makes him English so thats all good. Someone said he now also has an Irish passport, if this is indeed true then it would be fine to also include Irish actor w/e as well as all the English actor etc except that it would cause the categories list to be excessive, the Jewish connection also makes that increasingly unhelpful.

Seeing the Robert De Nero thing made me laugh by the way, Americans of English, Irish, German, French, Dutch etc descent. Somebody traced his family tree there just to add their country to some actors profile? Ironically proves how we are all just one race and children of the Earth anyway.--EchetusXe (talk) 00:31, 8 September 2008 (UTC) [reply ]

The exact quote from parkinson. "the thing im least interested in is i suppose is the fact that i'm a middle class englishman." —Preceding unsigned comment added by Robert holmes (talk • contribs) 07:34, 22 August 2008 (UTC) [reply ]

"the fact is that as the child of an Irish born person" - his father C Day-Lewis was born in Ireland long before the revolution or independence. He was born a British Subject. He was resident in England and so never stopped being a British Subject. Daniel can and has claimed dual nationality - but his father was never a citizen of the Republic of Ireland. Daisyabigael (talk) 00:40, 11 February 2009 (UTC) [reply ]

This is the third Irish-English-British discussion I've found relating to an English-British-Irish Actor, quite the contentious subject. As someone who has lived in Britain England Ireland and northern Ireland and as a holder of many passports (in my capacity of an international man of mystery,)I think people are over estimating the worth of these categorizations. When countries two are as close historically, culturally and ethnically(a word I hate to use in this context) definitions are hard to agree on and nebulous at best. Also can't we keep our grubby nationalism out of this?

What happened to the bottom? Seems to be cut off.... -plange 03:34, 28 July 2006 (UTC) [reply ]

There are 7 things that must pass before an article reaches GA status. I have reviewed it and the result is as follows:

1. Well-written: Pass
2. Factually accurate: Pass
3. Broad: Pass
4. Neutrally written: Pass
5. Stable: Pass
6. Well-referenced: Pass
7. Images: Pass

Well done, the GA has passed successfully —M in un ^Spiderman 19:40, 28 July 2006 (UTC) [reply ]

Neither Daniel nor his Anglo-Irish father who came to England as a boy and became British Poet Laureate would be recognisably Irish. Daniel could equally well choose to be Jewish. Or English. Does it matter? To him, perhaps yes. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Bill Tegner (talk • contribs) 21:39, 28 January 2007 (UTC).[reply ]

Daniel is both Irish and English, so will everyone just shut up about it, i'm sick of this crap, every biography i look up there is this stupid fu#*ing arguement. THESE PEOPLE ARE PATHETIC 89.124.89.62 00:39, 24 March 2007 (UTC) [reply ]

Will someone explain to me why such semi-literate, semi-obscene rants are not deleted from something that purports to be an encyclopedic website? 86.41.167.29 16:14, 2 June 2007 (UTC) [reply ]

He's an English-born English actor. I fail to see how he is in any way Irish. As I have stated previously, is Madonna British because she lives in England and carries a British passport? Is Peter Frampton American because he has American citizenship? No on both counts. The article, therefore, should refer to Day-Lewis as English. By the way, this is not a messsage board, so would the above user try to bear that in mind before ranting.

Guv2006 21:56, 8 April 2007 (UTC) [reply ]

He has Irish citizenship, i've read in English papers numerous times about Pierce Brosnan and even they referred to him as American because he has taken up American citizenship. It seems that your on your own then about what you believe. Peter Frampton is English-American89.124.89.62 01:49, 11 April 2007 (UTC) [reply ]

It might seem like it to you, it doesn't seem like it to Wiki or the OTHER section about his identity (further up this page). Frampton is English, not American English: "Peter Kenneth Frampton (born April 22, 1950) is an English[1] musician, singer, producer, and multi-instrumentalist." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Frampton Guv2006 (talk) 16:06, 3 June 2010 (UTC) [reply ]

What about this woman? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baroness_O%27Cathain She was born in Ireland yet her page refers to her as an 'Irish-born British'. I'm not disputing this description; Day-Lewis should be referred to as 'British-born Irish'. 86.42.206.133 (talk) 20:57, 10 February 2008 (UTC) [reply ]

Except there is nothing Irish about him. Guv2006 (talk) 16:07, 3 June 2010 (UTC) [reply ]

Did he turn down the role of Aragorn in LOTR? Checking google, there does seem to be sources for the claim, but not many reliable ones. IMDB mentions it, but their biographies aren't always accurate. Stu ^{’Bout ye!} 14:01, 23 April 2007 (UTC) [reply ]

• If a reliable source is found and can be provided, the information can be included. The Filmaker 20:06, 23 April 2007 (UTC) [reply ]

"He made his debut in Cry, The Beloved Country wearing extensive makeup for his role as a black boy. While his disdain for the school grew, he made his film debut at the age of 14 in Sunday Bloody Sunday in which he played a vandal in an uncredited role. "

someone please clarify--Mongreilf (talk) 18:43, 13 January 2008 (UTC) [reply ]

It appears to have been corrected now. The second sentence was accurate. Nishkid64 (talk) 23:02, 25 January 2008 (UTC) [reply ]

Why does it say he won his second Oscar when the award hadn't even been given as of the time of that edit? A little preemptive. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.155.244.251 (talk) 04:11, 25 February 2008 (UTC) [reply ]

I noticed that myself... check if the IP address is owned by Price-Waterhouse-Coopers :) Anyway, they just officially announced it about 3 minutes ago. SqlPac (talk) 04:40, 25 February 2008 (UTC) [reply ]

The article states that he met Rebecca Miller... and then she had his children. I'm assuming something happened in between? - Dudesleeper / Talk 10:34, 24 February 2008 (UTC) [reply ]

Yeah, but all that was covered in Biology class in Junior High. SqlPac (talk) 04:41, 25 February 2008 (UTC) [reply ]

Sexual intercourse is the most likely "something" that happened. 64.230.40.32 (talk) 05:28, 25 February 2008 (UTC) [reply ]

Is there any way to re-write this to sound less awkward? Maybe "Daniel Day-Lewis is a British-Irish actor"? All Hallow's Wraith (talk) 04:59, 25 February 2008 (UTC) [reply ]

Daniel day Lewis has an Irish accent. Lives in New York & Ireland. Was Born In England to parents born in Ireland & England. Carries an Irish-American passport (He does NOT no longer carry an English passport). His faith is Jewish and he considers himself Catholic since he declared himself Catholic in the summer of 2006. Call him whatever you want or label him rather... Hes Irish. Parkinson is rubbish. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.65.134.211 (talk) 06:42, 25 February 2008 (UTC) [reply ]

I think the best way to write this would be, "English born actor with British-Irish citizenship" - He said less than an hour ago at the post Oscar Interviews that he came form the two cultures - England and Ireland.

He lives in Ireland and has declared himself an Irish Catholic. To call him a British actor is not accurate in any way. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.71.158.19 (talk) 07:49, 25 February 2008 (UTC) [reply ]

What is "British-Irish Citizenship"? It should read "with British and Irish citizenship" or "Dual British and Irish citizenship". There is no such thing as a single "British-Irish" citizenship. 78.16.239.230 (talk) 13:03, 25 February 2008 (UTC) [reply ]

Yes, it should read "an Englsih born actor with British and Irish citizenship" —Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.71.158.89 (talk) 15:18, 25 February 2008 (UTC) [reply ]

Hello? While I find the article looks much better for the change, isn't just under twelve hours a little short to claim consensus has been reached??? TINY MARK 17:14, 25 February 2008 (UTC) [reply ]

Wow, amazingly precise. The amount of space arguing about citizenship is equal to the whole content about the man. It is very simple, the standard is where you were born, period. You cannot be born and grow up in England and "be" Irish, born and grow up in America and "be" Italian. Worse both parents weren't even Irish. So basically like everyone else he's a mutt and all these nationalistic nonsense is just that. Clearly he wants to be Irish so who gives a crap. Really he's quite the pre-madonna anyway(which is why this is such an issue), so who cares. He's fast becoming the Tom Cruise of serious actors. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tslate007 (talk • contribs) 13:13, 26 February 2008 (UTC) [reply ]

The whole "British" thing sounds iffy to me. Normally an actor is described as being English, Scottish, Welsh etc. TINY MARK 15:52, 26 February 2008 (UTC) [reply ]

I actually think he was driven from London by media intrusion as his career began to take off. This is the man in his own words: 'If I really chose to look at myself, I'd say that probably the thing I'm least interested in about myself is the fact that I'm a middle-class Englishman. So therefore it doesn't really appeal to me the idea of exploring that experience. Probably since childhood, I think my curiosity was almost invariably fired by the mystery of lives I didn't understand. My first school in south-east London only took me a few miles from my comfortable life in Greenwich, but it took me to the frontline in south-east London.'

Now 49, Day-Lewis has been living in Ireland for 12 years, at a healthy distance from what he sneeringly calls 'the business.' http://www.timeout.com/film/news/997/daniel-day-lewis-q-a.html —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.32.108.54 (talk) 10:17, 27 February 2008 (UTC) [reply ]

It may sound a little awkward, but it is factually correct. And due to anomalous complexities not everything makes for a neat sentence. Guv2006 (talk) 16:09, 3 June 2010 (UTC) [reply ]

Is this spam? There is no such film slated for 2011 directed by Christopher Nolan.

--p4 (talk) 01:37, 31 July 2008 (UTC)p4poetic--p4 (talk) 01:37, 31 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]

The opening paragraph claims he has starred in 4 movies in the last 10 years (with citation). However this is referring to the period of 1997 when he starred in The Boxer to 2007 when he starred in There Will Be Blood. However obviously this no longer translates into 4 movies in the last 10 years. It seems it should be 3 movies in the last 10 years (1998-2008) or 4 movies in the last 11 years (1997-2008). Could someone who better understands Wiki rules Edit this. I am sure this is not a misrepresentation of the citation. However I do not know what the standard is for this kind of statement that would have to be updated regularly. -Karma50 (talk) 07:07, 2 August 2008 (UTC) [reply ]

Day-Lewis encountered several problems on tour, including a "disagreement" with Romeo's director, and an unpleasant experience with Ian McKellen.

This is vague and sounds gossipy. "Disagreement" in quotation marks, "unpleasant experience"... anyone care to elaborate? -- megA (talk) 12:06, 17 February 2009 (UTC) [reply ]

I have noticed many arguements on Wikipedia recently that concern nationality. Such as this one with Daniel Day Lewis. As an Irishman myself I find some of this to be complete nonsense. Daniel Day Lewis is English. He was born there. I don't understand how this has even gone so far as to say he is Irish. I believe that a compromise is needed and here is my solution. I believe that we should just say that Daniel Day Lewis is English, BUT we should also address his Irish roots. It is completely unfair to ignore his contributions to Ireland and say he has nothing to do with Ireland. Due to his Irish citizenship, his role as revoloutionary Irish characters in films( Christy Brown, Gerry Conlon etc. ) and the fact that he lives in Ireland and that his father was Irish. I believe their should be a new section set up simply explaining this. We should leave all these biased arguments out of Wikipedia and simply explain the facts. Wikipedia has been continually slated and critisized in the public and the media because of these biased views. For example if you take a look at Stephen Fry, he has openly critisized Wikipedia. Wikipedia's image has been destroyed due to these biased changes and view in its main pages and its time to stop it.User:Jamie Kelly

I think you're not seeing the basic issues at work regarding how anyone, especially persons who hail from or are citizens of Great Britain. There is often a difference between nationality, citizenship and heritage. I responded somewhere earlier when someone was complaining because a person's grandfather was Scottish and therefore, we should say he was Scottish-English. It even becomes more complicated when that person is also Jewish. Part of the problem stems from strong national roots inherent in people from England, Ireland, Scotland and Wales and that becomes apparent when someone says "I'm an Irishman." The bottom line problem is that opinion is widely divided as to what someone is called, and that isn't from any bias on the part of "outsiders" from elsewhere. It's divided amongst British citizens. That is why, as a global community, Wikipedia has tried to develop guidelines on how to address this in MOS:BIO, which outlines how the opening paragraph should be written. What's pertinent here is "Nationality – 1. In the normal case this will mean the country of which the person is a citizen or national, or was a citizen when the person became notable." That it becomes messy is when someone like Day-Lewis is born in England and also becomes a citizen of Ireland, from where he has familial roots. What makes it even messier is when countries no longer require that someone renounce citizenship in one country to become a citizen in another, or when they hold dual citizenship from birth (Nicole Kidman comes to mind). There is already the differences of opinion on whether he should be called British or English, then it becomes more complicated with the new citizenship. Part of this was addressed by the clause in the guideline regarding "or was a citizen when the person became notable."

In this article, no one has attempted to deny the Irish heritage of Day-Lewis, nor has his citizenship or the place he lives been smoothed over. In no way has anyone written anything that says he has nothing to do with Ireland. The article starts out saying he is English, and also states clearly he is a citizen of both Great Britain and Ireland. It says his father is the Irish born Poet Laureate Cecil Day-Lewis, so his Irish roots are clearly acknowledged. It says his mother is Jewish. It says that he lives in homes in the U.S. and Ireland. All of what is written here is supposed to be supported by reliable sources and that makes it all the more difficult when the subject is as guarded about his private life as is Daniel Day-Lewis. I don't know when he started living permanently in Ireland, I know he holidayed there as a child. He took the role of Christy Brown prior to living in Ireland, moved there to research the role. He didn't move there permanently until 1993, when he became an Irish citizen and In the Name of the Father had already been filmed. New additions need reliable sources, which aren't available. I'm sorry you see any of this as evidence of any sort of bias on the part of Wikipedia. It's far more complicated than that, and as for whether or not any publication, online or printed, has its image destroyed because of criticism is a matter of opinion. Wildhartlivie (talk) 03:26, 13 August 2009 (UTC) [reply ]

Oh now i understand. Indeed this seems to be a very "sticky" subject to deal with here. In my own view i always thought it would be better for Wikipedia to simply say a certain person was the nationality of the country in which he was born (Ireland-Irish,England-English Etc.) and to display heritage and cultural identity in a completely new section. Well thanks for the reply anyway.User:Jamie Kelly

No wonder Wikipedia entries are inadmissible as reference material for serious university courses. When certain "contributors" here stop claiming that Day-Lewis is Irish, and stop vandalising this entry and others with claims on everyone from Robert De Niro to Winston Churchill was also, then we might get somewhere. It has long been established that Day-Lewis is British, but that won't stop the Irish nationalists, it appears. Guv2006 (talk) 13:00, 13 September 2010 (UTC) [reply ]

Day-Lewis' played Franz Kafka in 'The Insurance Man,' written by Alan Bennett and directed by Richard Eyre. Why no mention? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.40.240.229 (talk) 18:42, 20 April 2010 (UTC) [reply ]

There is no English nationality. There is no English passport. There is no sovereign country called England. Please, planet earth, learn this simple truth. How can you call someone English and then declare him a British citizen? Whatever else he may be, if he is a British citizen, he is, duh, BRITISH !!!

Amazing thing, logic. Please employ and stop deleting helpful corrections through ignorance. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Screwbiedooo (talk • contribs) 12:36, 15 July 2010 (UTC) [reply ]

His ethnicity is described first, then his two nationalities. Qwerta369 (talk) 12:48, 15 July 2010 (UTC) [reply ]