Cipher: The Jarvis with a Hermes Core

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The "Jarvis" framing is the dream everyone reaches for, and the interesting engineering reality is that the magic isn't the personality - it's the orchestration core underneath ("Hermes core" is the right instinct). A Jarvis that feels seamless is really a router + memory + tool-dispatch system with a conversational skin; the assistant vibe is the last 5%, the harness is the 95%.

The trap I'd watch for: a personal-assistant agent accretes capabilities until context bloat and tool-selection ambiguity make it slower and dumber than a focused one. The fix is the same as any multi-agent system - scope context per task, route to the right model/tool, don't make one mega-agent hold everything. That's the architecture under Moonshift (a multi-agent pipeline: prompt to a shipped SaaS on your own GitHub + Vercel) and it's why routing keeps even a complex build ~3ドル flat. First run's free, no card. Cool project - is Cipher one big agent with many tools, or a crew of specialized ones behind the Jarvis interface? That choice tends to decide how it scales.

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John A Madrigal

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• May 31

I agree and already plan on a multi-agent setup. Hermes is new to me but I've been using a 6 agent setup with OpenClaw for the past 3 months. It's the route I'm going and I only gave myself a single weekend to build that with Hermes for this Challenge. Also trying to see how differently it works with the self improvement profile.

Honestly, the whole Idea is to make this into a native desktop app using Python and native phone app in Kotlin. And honestly it doesn't stop at the amount of agents, you need to be using multiple LLM models and different models based on the task that's being asked. So he has multiple tools called "skills" using skill.md files and he will also have a knowledge base where you can force the documents, images, and websites directly to him for certain skill calls.

There is still a lot of work to be done on the agent. It would honestly be best if I can find a way to make it into it's own OS with Hermes or Openclaw becoming the center operator for the OS. That's how I picture it when it's fully completed because that will be the most secure and give the most access to the agent, if the agent itself is a small time OS.