Forgejo v8 Upgrade / Install Party #198

fnetX commented 2024年07月24日 12:13:29 +02:00

continuation of a thought from #197

What do you think of a Forgejo install party, following the release. During my time spent with user research, it was pretty interesting to observe admins install and configure Forgejo, help them right away and learn about setups right away (IIRC @0ko wanted to learn about the Forgejo deployments, too).

It would also be interesting to ask admins not to prepare for the meeting and observe them from the start: do they read the release notes? Do they understand them? Do they have questions? Do they check things in detail? Do they just run an upgrade script and don't care? Do they make backups as recommended? Do they run into challenges?

I would be really motivated to do this in a live meeting where Forgejo contributors join and help.

This weekend would be a nice chance, but unfortunately, I cannot commit much time. Although early feedback is better than everything else, we might also just do a less useful (but still exciting) experiment and run it one week later, e.g. Friday 02 August.

continuation of a thought from https://codeberg.org/forgejo/discussions/issues/197 What do you think of a Forgejo install party, following the release. During my time spent with user research, it was pretty interesting to observe admins install and configure Forgejo, help them right away and learn about setups right away (IIRC @0ko wanted to learn about the Forgejo deployments, too). It would also be interesting to ask admins not to prepare for the meeting and observe them from the start: do they read the release notes? Do they understand them? Do they have questions? Do they check things in detail? Do they just run an upgrade script and don't care? Do they make backups as recommended? Do they run into challenges? I would be really motivated to do this in a live meeting where Forgejo contributors join and help. This weekend would be a nice chance, but unfortunately, I cannot commit much time. Although early feedback is better than everything else, we might also just do a less useful (but still exciting) experiment and run it one week later, e.g. Friday 02 August.

fnetX commented 2024年07月26日 13:25:01 +02:00

Given the Forgejo release is unlikely to happen before the weekend, this is actually fine.

I recommend to schedulle for Friday, August 2, 18.00 CEST or 16.00 UTC via https://talk.tchncs.de/room/90dd171d-51eb-47e7-be1f-b40f2643b4eb?invite=00228865-60ea-45e2-8880-139647f26ff0

I am pinging some Forgejo maintainers to see if there would be enough human power available, and will then try to advertize the event accordingly.

Given the Forgejo release is unlikely to happen before the weekend, this is actually fine. I recommend to schedulle for Friday, August 2, 18.00 CEST or 16.00 UTC via https://talk.tchncs.de/room/90dd171d-51eb-47e7-be1f-b40f2643b4eb?invite=00228865-60ea-45e2-8880-139647f26ff0 I am pinging some Forgejo maintainers to see if there would be enough human power available, and will then try to advertize the event accordingly.

fnetX commented 2024年07月26日 13:34:07 +02:00

My concept in a sketch:

• people join the meeting and can have small talk and general exchange or ask specific questions
• if they want, they are invited to join a breakout room and
  • if they didn't take a look at the release notes yet, they can read them and we observe if and how they understand them, if there are confusing points etc
  • they can perform the upgrade or installation and we observe their workflow and potential roadblockers
• even if the user research aspect doesn't work out well, I do believe that this will give us important insights and eventually allow us to identify and fix bugs on the fly, together

My concept in a sketch: - people join the meeting and can have small talk and general exchange or ask specific questions - if they want, they are invited to join a breakout room and - if they didn't take a look at the release notes yet, they can read them and we observe if and how they understand them, if there are confusing points etc - they can perform the upgrade or installation and we observe their workflow and potential roadblockers - even if the user research aspect doesn't work out well, I do believe that this will give us important insights and eventually allow us to identify and fix bugs on the fly, together

0ko commented 2024年07月26日 13:49:09 +02:00

Friday, August 2, 18.00 CEST or 16.00 UTC

I will be available. 👍

I will think of stuff to do, good thing that you started planning beforehand this time.

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Ghost commented 2024年08月25日 08:41:03 +02:00

Is there post-mortem of this event that could be mentioned in the monthly report?

Is there post-mortem of this event that could be mentioned in the monthly report?

fnetX commented 2024年08月25日 10:57:06 +02:00

What about:

The install party was a nice community meetup and we got to know some Forgejo users. Some users performed their updates live and had only minor issues that were mostly caused by an issue on their end. Due to the lack of actual problems, some might have perceived it as boring. Finally, it was decided to also upgrade Codeberg to Forgejo v8, which was also a smooth experience.

What about: The install party was a nice community meetup and we got to know some Forgejo users. Some users performed their updates live and had only minor issues that were mostly caused by an issue on their end. Due to the lack of actual problems, some might have perceived it as boring. Finally, it was decided to also upgrade Codeberg to Forgejo v8, which was also a smooth experience.