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Opt out of TDM (data mining) #2094
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opened 2025年08月20日 16:04:56 +02:00 by n0toose
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n0toose
commented 2025年08月20日 16:04:56 +02:00
n0toose
commented 2025年08月20日 17:50:44 +02:00
This would effectively allow Codeberg to sidestep all of that philosophical stuff about ethical licenses and whatnot without reducing "freedom" (for lack of a better term) over a perhaps temporary problem: #2089
Codeberg can (and perhaps should) apply such restrictions or signals on a site-wide level; same way as it can for specific user agents or IP ranges that are deemed abusive.
This would effectively allow Codeberg to sidestep all of that philosophical stuff about ethical licenses and whatnot without reducing "freedom" (for lack of a better term) over a perhaps temporary problem: https://codeberg.org/Codeberg/Community/issues/2089
Codeberg can (and perhaps should) apply such restrictions or signals on a site-wide level; same way as it can for specific user agents or IP ranges that are deemed abusive.
Gusted
commented 2025年08月26日 19:43:19 +02:00
TDM seems to have a broad definition and opting out may only be done by the rightholder. I don't think Codeberg is legally the rightholder for content hosted on Codeberg.
TDM seems to have a broad definition and opting out may only be done by the rightholder. I don't think Codeberg is legally the rightholder for content hosted on Codeberg.
fogti
commented 2025年08月27日 00:07:22 +02:00
would it be possible to implement it as an organisation-wide setting (checkbox)?
would it be possible to implement it as an organisation-wide setting (checkbox)?
Gusted
commented 2025年08月27日 00:38:22 +02:00
That would work.
That would work.
cpresser
commented 2025年08月29日 11:13:07 +02:00
yeah, gusted is correct. Only the rightholders can opt out.
There is lot of discussion around TDM happening in the EU. The following link is a study (commissioned by the parliament) that looks at the problems caused by the DSM-Regulation and the TDM articles. I like it because it pretty much sums up my thought about the imbalance between creatives and the tech industry.
https://www.europarl.europa.eu/RegData/etudes/STUD/2025/774095/IUST_STU(2025)774095_EN.pdf
It is however just a study. It is not clear if and how lawmakers will actually implement changes.
I still recommend to read the summary part if you are interested in the current state of things.
yeah, gusted is correct. Only the rightholders can opt out.
There is lot of discussion around TDM happening in the EU. The following link is a study (commissioned by the parliament) that looks at the problems caused by the DSM-Regulation and the TDM articles. I like it because it pretty much sums up my thought about the imbalance between creatives and the tech industry.
https://www.europarl.europa.eu/RegData/etudes/STUD/2025/774095/IUST_STU(2025)774095_EN.pdf
It is however just a study. It is not clear if and how lawmakers will actually implement changes.
I still recommend to read the summary part if you are interested in the current state of things.
Gusted
added the 2025年08月29日 23:16:27 +02:00
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