Message267611
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vstinner |
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Colm Buckley, doko, larry, lemburg, martin.panter, matejcik, ned.deily, python-dev, rhettinger, skrah, thomas-petazzoni, vstinner, ztane |
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2016年06月07日.09:55:52 |
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-1.0 |
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Yes |
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<1465293353.21.0.00592438437705.issue26839@psf.upfronthosting.co.za> |
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I'm the author of the os.urandom() change which introduced the usage of the new getrandom() syscall: see the issue #22181. My motivation was to avoid the internal file descriptor to read /dev/urandom. In some corner cases (issue #18756), creating a file descriptor fails with EMFILE. Python introduced a workaround keeping the file descriptor open (issue #18756), but this change introduced new issues (issue #21207)...
When I modified os.urandom(), I was aware that getrandom() can block at startup, but I saw this feature as a good thing for Python. It doesn't seem like a good idea to generate low quality random numbers. I expected that such system *quickly* gets enough good entropy. With this issue, we now have more information: "quickly" means in fact longer than 1 minute! ("causing a 90-second boot delay", msg265477).
Blocking Python startup longer than 1 minute just to get good quality random numbers doesn't seem worth it to me. It is clearly seen as a regression compared to Python 2 (which doesn't use getrandom() but reads /dev/urandom). I understand that the behaviour is also seen as a bug when compared to other programming languages or applications.
For all these reasons, I pushed Colm's change. |
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| 2016年06月07日 09:55:53 | vstinner | set | recipients:
+ vstinner, lemburg, rhettinger, doko, larry, matejcik, ned.deily, skrah, python-dev, martin.panter, ztane, thomas-petazzoni, Colm Buckley |
| 2016年06月07日 09:55:53 | vstinner | set | messageid: <1465293353.21.0.00592438437705.issue26839@psf.upfronthosting.co.za> |
| 2016年06月07日 09:55:53 | vstinner | link | issue26839 messages |
| 2016年06月07日 09:55:52 | vstinner | create |
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