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This issue seems to be expanding widely in scope and it is not at all clear to me what actionable items would come out of it. It started as a very Window-specific problem and now seems to somehow be being extended to the whole Python ecosphere. What about the OS X world, arguably one of the most widely-used laptop development environment these days? Apple distributes system Pythons with OS X. There are the python.org installers for OS X. There are third-party suppliers of popular binary wheels and or installers for important packages (e.g. NumPy, pandas, matplotlib) for one or both of the above. There are very popular third-party general open-source package distributors for OS X: Homwbrew and MacPorts, to a lesser extent, Fink. All of them distribute Pythons and many Python packages. Then there are the cross-platform distributors, like Anaconda, Enthought, ActiveState, etc. Should they all be part of this discussion? What about other Posix-y platforms, like FreeBSD? Where do you see this discussion going and is this a good forum for it?