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Title: time.utcoffset()
Type: enhancement Stage: resolved
Components: Library (Lib) Versions: Python 3.3
process
Status: closed Resolution: rejected
Dependencies: Superseder: Add aware local time support to datetime module
View: 9527
Assigned To: belopolsky Nosy List: belopolsky, eric.araujo, pitrou
Priority: normal Keywords:

Created on 2010年01月09日 17:15 by techtonik, last changed 2022年04月11日 14:56 by admin. This issue is now closed.

Messages (11)
msg97463 - (view) Author: anatoly techtonik (techtonik) Date: 2010年01月09日 17:15
The proposal to add the function that will allow to get current UTC offset. Do we need a PEP for this one?
def time.utcoffset():
 """Return current UTC offset in seconds"""
 return -(time.altzone if time.daylight else time.timezone)
msg97472 - (view) Author: Brian Curtin (brian.curtin) * (Python committer) Date: 2010年01月09日 21:26
I think this would be nice, but see msg97471 from your diff.py ISO timestamp issue. time.daylight should probably be time.localtime().tm_isdst.
msg97509 - (view) Author: anatoly techtonik (techtonik) Date: 2010年01月10日 11:45
Answered in msg97503
In the meanwhile it looks like another proposal about RFC format in issue #7584 doesn't account for proper timezone too.
msg99119 - (view) Author: anatoly techtonik (techtonik) Date: 2010年02月09日 14:56
Updated Python code according to discussion from aforementioned issue #7582. Unfortunately, I can't find Python source for `time` module to make a proper patch out of it.
def time.utcoffset():
 """Return current UTC offset in seconds"""
 isdst = time.localtime().tm_isdst
 if (time.daylight and isdst):
 return -time.altzone
 else:
 return -time.timezone
msg99120 - (view) Author: Antoine Pitrou (pitrou) * (Python committer) Date: 2010年02月09日 15:48
The `time` module is written in C, in Modules/timemodule.c.
If this is too bothersome to write in C, the function could perhaps be added to the datetime module instead.
In any case, we need a proper patch, including unit tests if possible.
(and I agree that anything making the time stuff easier to use is welcome)
msg107172 - (view) Author: Alexander Belopolsky (belopolsky) * (Python committer) Date: 2010年06月06日 01:52
I would prefer exposing tm_gmtoff in time.localtime() output. The advantage is that on platforms that support it is struct tm, it will return correct offset for times in the past, not only for the current time. See issue1647654.
On platforms without tm_gmtoff we can fill it with -tm_isdst?timezone:altzone. The current situation on Linux is just backwards: we are trying to divine altzone by sampling tm_gmtoff and throw tm_gmtoff away.
See http://blogs.gnome.org/jamesh/2006/12/31/python-timetimezone-timealtzone-edge-case/.
msg126064 - (view) Author: Alexander Belopolsky (belopolsky) * (Python committer) Date: 2011年01月12日 01:44
I am going to close this as superseded by #9527. All these issues, current, #9527, and #1647654 are really about Python's lack of access to the system timezone information and #9527 seem to be the most appropriate solution.
My specific concern about proposed time.utcoffset() is that you normally need UTC offset together with current time, but localtime() call followed by utcoffset() may lead to a race condition.
msg126217 - (view) Author: anatoly techtonik (techtonik) Date: 2011年01月13日 23:27
This one is a different issue. Even though it can not be solved without by #9527, it is not superseded by it. So, better add to dependencies.
msg126218 - (view) Author: Brett Cannon (brett.cannon) * (Python committer) Date: 2011年01月13日 23:39
You can discuss within the comments whether this issue should be re-opened or not, but do not take it upon yourself to change the status on your own once a core developer has already closed an issue as their decision supersedes that of a regular user.
msg126220 - (view) Author: anatoly techtonik (techtonik) Date: 2011年01月14日 00:18
I am tired. Do as you wish.
msg126224 - (view) Author: Alexander Belopolsky (belopolsky) * (Python committer) Date: 2011年01月14日 04:25
Just to clarify: Anatoly changed the resolution, not status (and I agree that was not appropriate.) The status was set to "pending" and that would change to "open" automatically if a new comment is posted.
As for the substance of Anatoly's objection - I agree that this proposal is different from #9527. That is why I set resolution to "rejected" rathe than "duplicate". This issue can probably be properly classified as a duplicate of #1647654, but I consider #9527 the most promising solution to the problem of finding the system timezone offset.
History
Date User Action Args
2022年04月11日 14:56:56adminsetgithub: 51911
2011年01月14日 04:25:28belopolskysetnosy: belopolsky, pitrou, eric.araujo
messages: + msg126224
stage: needs patch -> resolved
2011年01月14日 00:19:03techtoniksetnosy: - techtonik
2011年01月14日 00:18:42techtoniksetstatus: open -> closed
nosy: belopolsky, pitrou, techtonik, eric.araujo
messages: + msg126220
2011年01月13日 23:39:30brett.cannonsetstatus: pending -> open
nosy: - brett.cannon
2011年01月13日 23:39:17brett.cannonsetstatus: open -> pending

messages: + msg126218
resolution: rejected
nosy: brett.cannon, belopolsky, pitrou, techtonik, eric.araujo
2011年01月13日 23:29:14brian.curtinsetnosy: - brian.curtin
2011年01月13日 23:27:56techtoniksetstatus: pending -> open

messages: + msg126217
resolution: rejected -> (no value)
nosy: brett.cannon, belopolsky, pitrou, techtonik, eric.araujo, brian.curtin
2011年01月12日 01:44:32belopolskysetstatus: open -> pending
superseder: Add aware local time support to datetime module
messages: + msg126064

nosy: brett.cannon, belopolsky, pitrou, techtonik, eric.araujo, brian.curtin
resolution: rejected
2010年12月01日 19:01:00eric.araujosetnosy: + eric.araujo

versions: + Python 3.3, - Python 2.7, Python 3.2
2010年06月06日 01:52:05belopolskysetassignee: belopolsky

messages: + msg107172
nosy: + belopolsky
2010年02月09日 15:48:15pitrousetnosy: + brett.cannon, pitrou
messages: + msg99120
2010年02月09日 14:56:34techtoniksetmessages: + msg99119
2010年01月14日 02:41:01brian.curtinsetpriority: normal
stage: needs patch
2010年01月10日 11:45:56techtoniksetmessages: + msg97509
2010年01月09日 21:26:54brian.curtinsetversions: - Python 3.1
nosy: + brian.curtin

messages: + msg97472

type: enhancement
2010年01月09日 17:30:54techtoniksettitle: time.utcoffset(dst=true) -> time.utcoffset()
2010年01月09日 17:15:39techtonikcreate

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