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Created on 2015年04月15日 16:36 by ncoghlan, last changed 2022年04月11日 14:58 by admin.
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| msg241129 - (view) | Author: Alyssa Coghlan (ncoghlan) * (Python committer) | Date: 2015年04月15日 16:36 | |
Discussion of issue 22980 made it clear to me that part of the problem with the cross-build support is that the difference between the build time information exposed in sysconfig and the live system information exposed in the platform module isn't clear. Debian's multiarch triplets (https://wiki.debian.org/Multiarch/Tuples) describe this information well, but it currently isn't readily exposed to Python code. sysconfig.get_config_var("MULTIARCH") only works on Debian & derivatives, and even issue 22980 only exposes the information in sysconfig.get_config_var("SOABI") on a subset of platforms. It would be good to extend the triples to cover Windows, and also to expose the *current* system triple at runtime in the platform module (including appropriate normalisation) |
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| msg241229 - (view) | Author: Alyssa Coghlan (ncoghlan) * (Python committer) | Date: 2015年04月16日 16:00 | |
Capturing some additional notes regarding the purpose of multiarch platform triplets. These triplets should unambiguously capture: * syscall ABI (~= kernel) * instruction set (IA-32, IA-64, PowerPC, ARM, ARM64, etc) * endianness (big- or little- * word size (32- or 64-) The initial set of triplets from Debian covers GNU/Linux, GNU/Hurd and GNU/FreeBSD. Issue 23969 covers accurately capturing Mac OS X details, while issue 23670 covers iOS. (Issue 23496 should also likely take the issue 22980 changes into account for the Android cross-build) I've added Steve Dower to the nosy list as it would also be good to have a set of triplets defined for Windows. MAL suggested in issue 22980 that it may be worth capturing this ABI compatibility identification discussion as a PEP rather than solely as a set of issues with resulting changes to the documentation, which I think is a reasonable direction to go (even if it's done primarily as an after-the-fact communication of the build identification changes for inclusion in What's New, rather than a gating requirement for actually doing the work). |
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| msg241711 - (view) | Author: Toshio Kuratomi (a.badger) * | Date: 2015年04月21日 13:06 | |
Note for doko/barry: The multiarch/Tuples page should have a section on how the MultiArch Tuples interact with hwcaps (or a link to such a section in a different document). The rationale for not using Gnu-Triplets in MulitArch/Tuples currently says that we do not want separate entries for (as an example) i386 vs i686 instructions but does not tell why. https://wiki.debian.org/Multiarch/TheCaseForMultiarch#Mixed_ABIs_and_instruction_set_extensions says that the i386 vs i686 use case is probably better addressed by glibc's hwcaps but points back to MultiArch/Tuples for rationale. A section of rationale and example to show how the multiarch tuple and hwcaps complement each other would fix that. |
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| Date | User | Action | Args |
| 2022年04月11日 14:58:15 | admin | set | github: 68154 |
| 2015年04月21日 13:06:03 | a.badger | set | nosy:
+ a.badger messages: + msg241711 |
| 2015年04月17日 21:26:13 | Arfrever | set | nosy:
+ Arfrever |
| 2015年04月16日 16:00:47 | ncoghlan | set | nosy:
+ steve.dower messages: + msg241229 |
| 2015年04月15日 16:36:51 | ncoghlan | create | |