diff --git a/Makefile.pre.in b/Makefile.pre.in
--- a/Makefile.pre.in
+++ b/Makefile.pre.in
@@ -473,16 +473,17 @@
 $(SYSCONFIGDATA): $(BUILDPYTHON)
 	$(RUNSHARED) $(PYTHON_FOR_BUILD) -S -m sysconfig --generate-posix-vars
 
+# silent flag is always in first word
+ifeq (s,$(findstring s,$(word 1,$(MAKEFLAGS))))
+ QUIET=-q
+else
+ QUIET=
+endif
+
 # Build the shared modules
 sharedmods: $(BUILDPYTHON) $(SYSCONFIGDATA)
-	if which getopt>/dev/null; then \
-	 mflags=`getopt s $$MAKEFLAGS 2>/dev/null | sed 's/ --.*/ /'`; \
-	else \
-	 mflags=" $$MAKEFLAGS "; \
-	fi; \
-	case $$mflags in "* -s *") quiet=-q; esac; \
 	$(RUNSHARED) CC='$(CC)' LDSHARED='$(BLDSHARED)' OPT='$(OPT)' \
-		$(PYTHON_FOR_BUILD) $(srcdir)/setup.py $$quiet build
+		$(PYTHON_FOR_BUILD) $(srcdir)/setup.py $(QUIET) build
 
 # Build static library
 # avoid long command lines, same as LIBRARY_OBJS
diff --git a/setup.py b/setup.py
--- a/setup.py
+++ b/setup.py
@@ -1788,6 +1788,8 @@
 mkpath(ffi_builddir)
 config_args = [arg for arg in sysconfig.get_config_var("CONFIG_ARGS").split()
 if (('--host=' in arg) or ('--build=' in arg))]
+ if not self.verbose:
+ config_args.append("-q")
 
 # Pass empty CFLAGS because we'll just append the resulting
 # CFLAGS to Python's; -g or -O2 is to be avoided.
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