[uf-discuss] hAtom

Tue Oct 25 17:11:47 PDT 2005

Hi David,
On Oct 25, 2005, at 3:22 PM, David Janes -- BlogMatrix wrote:
>> META POINT: please add your questions to the Wiki [1] so *I don't 
> have to*. This is taking me tens of hours to do and every timesaver 
> helps!

My apologies -- I wasn't sure if this was 'on point' enough to 
comment. I've added it (and done a little cleanup as well).
> As a set of goals for hAtom, off the top of my head
>> (1) to provide a blog-post microformat, based on how people 
> actually produce weblogs
> (2) based on (1), use Atom as it provides the most suitable data 
> model for doing so
> (3) based on (2), to make the format useful anywhere Atom might be 
> used in context to create a syndication feed

That's useful data; I've added it to the wiki page.
http://microformats.org/wiki/hatom-issues#Goals_for_hAtom
However, I've added one more:
Provide a baseline envelope format for similar {title|link|content| 
summary} web pages
To your point:
> Everything that has
>> (a) a title
> (b) a link
> (c) content
and (d) summary
>> is going to look similar ... sometimes eerily so! This does not 
> mean they're really related.

Why not? If they in fact all have the same things, why aren't they 
instances of the same general class?
> I have mentioned this several times over the last several weeks, 
> but read [2] _carefully_ to understand why a generic concept of 
> "content" will _not_ work for marking up blog content

I'm sorry, I've tried reading that, but I'm still thoroughly 
confused. I understand why you have separate 'content' and 
'summary' items. I understand why each entry can have zero or more of 
each of them.
So, that implies to me that hAtom is in fact the *general* case of a 
list of items. Other micforomats -- S5, classifieds, etc. -- should 
just reuse hAtom (or hAtom + XOXO) as the base format, for greater 
consistence and interoperability.
If not, why not?
-- Ernie P.
>> Regards, etc...
> David
> http://www.blogmatrix.com
>> [1] http://microformats.org/wiki/hatom-issues
> [2] http://microformats.org/wiki/blog-post-brainstorming#Entry_Content
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