[LOGic] LOGic forum

Wed May 16 22:08:25 EDT 2012

Just to put my two cents in - I have had LOGic since LOGic3 .... and 
all the versions since. I have always been extremely pleased with it. 
Yes, there have (and still does) been bugs in it, but what complicated 
software doesn't? They all have been minor and, well, the latest LOGic9 
with the spotting band map is awesome!!! Plus some nice embellishments 
in other areas vs 8. I usually have ten or twelve windows open and use 
the data terminal, two web clusters going at once, two rigs being 
controller, etc etc on an old Pentium 4 (12 years old) with XP... and 
it all works great. I tried doing that with HRD - it was so slow my 
machine would hang up. Dennis has always been responsive to my 
questions. LOGic9 runs even faster now vs LOGic8. With all the 
features in LOGic... and the support... I just don't understand the 
complaints?????
On 5/15/2012 6:18 AM, Rich Kelly wrote:
> Logic 9 out preforms any logging program out there. I've been using it for
> months without any issues. I"m not sure what problems you are having that
> aren't working with Logic 9? This whole post from W5WVO confuses me.........
>> Rich
> KB9RNO
>> On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 12:18 AM, Bill VanAlstyne W5WVO<w5wvo at cybermesa.net
>> wrote:
>> Hank et al.,
>>>> Your post begs my original question of a few days ago, which remains
>> unanswered -- Is v8 still being updated / bugfixed? If V9 is basically at
>> Alpha level (which is what I would call it, based on your description of
>> its
>> architectural evolution, and as such, should not have been released to the
>> user base) -- then are known and reported problems in V8, the released
>> production version, being addressed, or are we just expected to live with
>> them until V9 is ready for its close-up? (Whenever that is?) And we are
>> just
>> expected to have faith that the perpetually unfixed V8 bugs are being
>> addressed in V9, and will work... someday?
>>>> Now, I'm a computer old-timer, and I've always volunteered for Beta
>> programs
>> whenever given the chance -- but IMO V9 isn't even really ready for Beta,
>> because it is still under active development. A Beta test is expected to
>> have a Release Candidate, a version of the entire product that is believed
>> to be complete and relatively bug-free based on the results of the Alpha
>> stage of testing, but of course is known not to be. The Beta volunteer user
>> base (not everyone cottons to the idea of testing imperfect software and
>> finding bugs) tests, details, and reports the remaining bugs, and they get
>> killed, one at a time and usually in triage fashion, with the highest
>> priority bugs addressed first. That's fine. But SUPPORT OF THE RELEASED
>> PRODUCTION CODE GOES ON during the Alpha and Beta stages of the next
>> version! Otherwise, the end user is left with production code (V8) that
>> used
>> to be supported, but that isn't any more due to reassignment of
>> development/support resources to the new version in Alpha or Beta test --
>> which are known to be (a) incomplete or (b) imperfect vehicles,
>> respectively.
>>>> If I might be allowed to put it crudely, this situation blows big-time.
>>>> Dennis needs to clarify this.
>>>> Bill W5WVO
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Hank Phillips
>> Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2012 16:37
>> To: logic at mailman.qth.net
>> Subject: Re: [LOGic] LOGic forum
>>>> When Microsoft notified the world in 2007 that Visual FoxPro would no
>> longer
>> be supported, Dennis didn't really have a choice about continuing
>> development in that language. Converting everything to .NET is not a
>> trivial undertaking, so I would recommend that we be patient while that
>> conversion process continues to take shape.
>>>> I purchased Logic9, installed it, and run it side by side with Logic8.
>> Logic8 continues to be my logger of choice for DXing, while I am waiting
>> for
>> Logic9 to catch up. My recommendation is to throw our support behind the
>> continuing development of Logic9, because it will be on a platform that has
>> a stated future in the Microsoft world, and just hang tight until the kinks
>> are worked out.
>>>> Vy 73,
>> Hank
>> AA4HP
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: logic-bounces at mailman.qth.net [mailto:logic-bounces at mailman.qth.net]
>> On Behalf Of K0DAN
>> Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2012 11:21 AM
>> To: logic at mailman.qth.net
>> Subject: Re: [LOGic] LOGic forum
>>>> I need to throw my 0ドル.02 in too.
>>>> I much prefer this email list to the "web based" forum alternative which I
>> guess is now the official site? Sending/receiving LOGIC-related info is
>> much
>> easier using an "email approach" than posting on a forum (in my opinion).
>>>> I too started with LOGIC 4 and have not gone beyond LOGIC 8. It meets 99%
>> of my needs, and yes, has a few quirks, which I live with. I won't go into
>> them because it's not worth the bother.
>>>> But my questions are regarding LOGIC 9...
>> a) For those of you have gone from V8 to V9, what do you gain? What do you
>> lose?
>> b) I have always had trouble when upgrading LOGIC versions, in that the
>> default databases (especially PREFIX and DXCC tables) do not meet my needs.
>> In the past I have had to spend a lot of time fixing errors produced by the
>> upgrades, rebuilding tables to suit my needs, etc. If I were to do a
>> standard install of LOGIC9, then import my log files, is there a way to
>> simply COPY my LOGIC8 directories and files on top of the new version?
>> Which
>> files& directories? What to avoid?
>>>> Glad to see there is still some life on this list!
>>>> 73
>> dan
>> k0dan
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Jim
>> Sent: May 13, 2012 08:19 AM
>> To: logic at mailman.qth.net
>> Subject: Re: [LOGic] How to post to the LOGic forum
>>>>>> Post your questions here.
>>>> Jim
>>>>> I'm K1VU and I have been using LOGic since Ver. 3 or 4. That goes back a
>>> ways.
>>>>>> I really don't like this Forum method of interfacing with Dennis or other
>>> LOGic users !!!
>>>>>> I've always have issues with LOGic that I could always post to this list
>>> and get help.
>>>>>> I still have a lot of issues with LOGic9 BUT I can' to seem to be able
>>> to make a post to the forum
>>>>>> It seems that I I have lot of questions that are not categorized in the
>>> Forum and I don't where to post them.
>>>>>> Anyway I played 90ドル for something that has created more problems that I
>>> had with LOGic8.
>>>>>> While LOGic9 has a few of the improvements that I always wanted, there
>> are
>>> more problems created
>>> than we had with LOGic8.
>>>>>> 73
>>> Bob, K1VU
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