[LOGic] Backup Strategy

Tue Oct 14 13:00:51 EDT 2008

Dan,
Yes. I upload a LOT less than you. You're talking about a lot of data 
there. When I mentioned ftp I was thinking mainly of logs, documents, etc. 
I work for an ISP, but that kind of bandwidth would even raise eyebrows 
here.
Hal
NN8L
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "K0DAN" <k0dan at comcast.net>
To: <halman at mail.t-one.net>; "LOGic is open to all radio amateurs for 
discussion of LOGic logging program" <logic at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 12:34 PM
Subject: Re: [LOGic] Backup Strategy
> Hal...
>> Where do you FTP to?
>> Do you only FTP your LOGIC files, or do you FTP all your data (personal
> files, finances, JPG's, M3's, etc.)? LOGIC is easy to move off site and 
> the
> data is not really very proprietary. Moving ALL the data (which I'd like 
> to
> do) not only requires strong encryption, but also maybe 200+ GB.
>> I have not yet found a site that's generous enough to offer that much 
> (free)
> storage!
>> If that wasn't bad enough, my ISP (Comcast) is now changing its terms &
> conditions to limit customers' monthly transfers to 250GB. That's a huge
> amount of bandwidth, but not totally outlandish for customers who wish to
> backup daa offsite.
>> Sounds more like you're offloading much smaller amounts to FTP?
>> 73
>> Dan
> K0DAN
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: <halman at mail.t-one.net>
> To: "LOGic is open to all radio amateurs for discussion of LOGic logging
> program" <logic at mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 8:03 AM
> Subject: Re: [LOGic] Backup Strategy
>>>>I was responding to a post that mentioned backing up using 4 or 5
>>strategies.
>> All I was saying was that if backup is that imperitive, a flash drive and
>> ftp
>> would be simple and cover it all. Nuclear disaster? Nope. If you have 
>> a
>> house
>> fire it doesn't matter how many different ways you back up your log,
>> they're
>> probably all gone. The original poster mentioned carrying a cd off
>> premises.
>> All I said was that ftp would fill the same void and you don't need to
>> burn
>> a cd. My system automatically ftp's my log and other files I don't want
>> to
>> miss daily. It only ftp's changed files, so the uploads are minimal. I
>> also
>> back them up to another drive on premises. It costs me nothing.
>>>> Hal
>> NN8L
>>>>>>>In a more serious vein... such precautions are normal for commercial
>>>backup strategies. Once again, consider using LotW (or E-QSL) as they
>>>provide excellent geographic diversity... unless you line in Hartford!
>>>>>>Mel Martin wrote:
>>>> "Preferably one over 75 miles away."
>>>>>>>> What are you concerned about... a nuclear attack... an asteroid
>>>> strike??? I'm careful with my log data... but not THAT careful Hal ;-)
>>>>>>>>>>>> NN8L wrote:
>>>>> The problem with having them under your direct control is exactly
>>>>> that. If you have a loss where your computer is and all of your
>>>>> backups, regardless of howm any are at the same place, you could lose
>>>>> them all. The safest strategy is an on premises and an off premises
>>>>> backup. Preferably one over 75 miles away.
>>>>>>>>>> Hal
>>>>> NN8L
>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "J.A. Wolf, MD, K6JW"
>>>>> <k6jw at scdxc.org>
>>>>>>> To: "LOGic is open to all radio amateurs for discussion of LOGic
>>>>> logging program" <logic at mailman.qth.net>
>>>>> Sent: Monday, October 13, 2008 7:05 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [LOGic] Backup Strategy
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That's certainly an option, but I prefer having all copies under my
>>>>>> direct
>>>>>> control.
>>>>>> --JW, K6JW
>>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "NN8L" <nn8l at nn8l.com>
>>>>>> To: "LOGic is open to all radio amateurs for discussion of LOGic
>>>>>> logging
>>>>>>>> program" <logic at mailman.qth.net>
>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2008 20:47
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [LOGic] Backup Strategy
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why not ftp to an off premises server? There are programs that will
>>>>>>>>> do it
>>>>>>> automatically.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hal
>>>>>>> NN8L
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "J.A. Wolf, MD, K6JW"
>>>>>>> <k6jw at scdxc.org>
>>>>>>> To: "LOGic is open to all radio amateurs for discussion of LOGic
>>>>>>> logging
>>>>>>> program" <logic at mailman.qth.net>
>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2008 10:47 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: [LOGic] Backup Strategy
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I believe in the "belt and suspenders" approach. Here's what I do:
>>>>>>>> 1. Every contact is backed up using LOGic's SafetyLog to a flash
>>>>>>>> drive.
>>>>>>>> 2. At the end of every opearting session I back up the log to a
>>>>>>>> directory
>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>> the flash drive AND to a subdirectory on the main hard drive but in
>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>> different logical partition (see below).
>>>>>>>> 3. About once a month, or sooner if I've worked a really rare and
>>>>>>>> needed
>>>>>>>> one, I back up to a CD and store the disc in a very safe (and
>>>>>>>> fireproof)
>>>>>>>> place well away from the shack.
>>>>>>>> 4. Periodically, I do a hard copy printout for safe, "offsite"
>>>>>>>> storage.
>>>>>>>> My contacts go back to 1958, I'd be devastated if I lost them.
>>>>>>>> Here's another safety tip. Whenever I get a new computer or
>>>>>>>> (unfortunately) have to rebuild my hard drive, I set up a separate
>>>>>>>> partition
>>>>>>>> from the C drive for data storage. If "C" goes down, I can usually
>>>>>>>> get to
>>>>>>>> the data partition (generally D, E, or F) to salvage everything
>>>>>>>> that's
>>>>>>>>>> important unless the drive has a mechanical failure. This has saved
>>>>>>>> my
>>>>>>>>>> neck
>>>>>>>> more than once over the years.
>>>>>>>> --JW, K6JW
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