[LOGic] 2 RIGS IN LOGIC

Tue Dec 4 06:58:29 EST 2007

I have some Lava (good quality) PCI serial expansion boards here I'm no
longer using. No reasonable offer refused.
+++ Mel
 
-----Original Message-----
From: logic-bounces at mailman.qth.net [mailto:logic-bounces at mailman.qth.net]
On Behalf Of K0DAN
Sent: December 3, 2007 21:24
To: LOGic is open to all radio amateurs for discussion of LOGic logging
program
Subject: Re: [LOGic] 2 RIGS IN LOGIC
ARRRRGH!
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ben N6FM" <n6fm at oregonfast.net>
To: "'LOGic is open to all radio amateurs for discussion of LOGic logging 
program'" <logic at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Monday, December 03, 2007 7:58 PM
Subject: RE: [LOGic] 2 RIGS IN LOGIC
> Actually RT-Systems makes one for 23,ドル their RTS-03 seen at the bottom 
> of
>> http://www.rtsystemsinc.com/othercables_template.cfm?cfid=2811076&cfto
> ken=60
> 058299#
>> I think it is the best for radio programming since you can adjust the 
> port latency if you use the included drivers. This allows timimg 
> changes that make the programming to and from the radio a little more 
> stable.
>> They work well for radio control purposes as well.
>> Ben
>>> I built a P.C. and added two (2) each 4 port serial cards. Now I have 
> 9 serial ports on one computer
>> -----Original Message-----
> From: logic-bounces at mailman.qth.net 
> [mailto:logic-bounces at mailman.qth.net]
> On Behalf Of K0DAN
> Sent: Monday, December 03, 2007 5:14 PM
> To: Dennis
> Cc: aj4f at comcast.net; logic at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [LOGic] 2 RIGS IN LOGIC
>> Hi Dennis...
>> Well since I started this thread, several things happened.
>> a) I found out the USB-serial boxes are not all that cheap (certainly 
> not
> in
>> the 40ドル range as I'd hoped). But they are available if one needs one.
> b) Serial cards are still available for PC's with PCI bus. These too 
> are
> not
>> as cheap as I'd expected either...I think the prices are rising again, 
> as serial becomes more rare. But they are available if one needs one.
> c) My hamshack PC (about 1 year old) has one serial port on the
> motherboard,
>> but no more. It has served me well with Logic, but now, with two rigs, 
> I need more I/O.
> d) I decided to order a 2-port PCI serial card from one of my 
> suppliers (around 35ドル), as it's the cheapest solution. Have not yet 
> received it, but it should let me add at least one more COM port, and 
> if I'm lucky (and it's configurable), maybe two more COM ports. It'll 
> do the job...for now.
>> Interesting how the I/O interfaces seem to grow for ALL devices! It's 
> a
> hard
>> life for programmers, eh?
>> Tnx es 73
> Dan
> K0DAN
>> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dennis" <dh at hosenose.com>
> To: "K0DAN" <k0dan at comcast.net>
> Cc: <aj4f at comcast.net>; <logic at mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Monday, December 03, 2007 9:39 AM
> Subject: Re: [LOGic] 2 RIGS IN LOGIC
>>>> Hi Dan:
>>>> RS-232 will be a while in disappearing. Even "USB" GPS units appear 
>> to software as an RS-232 device.
>>>> I imagine that the next thing that will happen is that some 
>> menufacturer will put a USB port on the rig, and ship a driver disk 
>> that will set up an RS-232
>> interface in Windows, like GPSs do.
>>>> Meanwhile, thank God for USBV=>RS232 adapters! However, the last 
>> motherboard I got actually had one RS-232 port on it.
>>>> 73,
>>>> Dennis
>>>> From: "K0DAN" <k0dan at comcast.net>
>> To: "Robie" <aj4f at comcast.net>
>> Subject: Re: [LOGic] 2 RIGS IN LOGIC
>> Date sent: 2007年11月29日 12:35:31 -0600
>> Copies to: logic at mailman.qth.net
>> Send reply to: LOGic is open to all radio amateurs for discussion of 
>> LOGic logging program <logic at mailman.qth.net> program 
>> <logic.mailman.qth.net>
>> <mailto:logic-
>> request at mailman.qth.net?subject=unsubscribe>
>> <mailto:logic-
>> request at mailman.qth.net?subject=subscribe>
>>>>> Hi Robie...
>>>>>> Thanks for yur comments. I just sent some more questions to Jack 
>>> K4WSB, CC'd to the reflector, so will not duplicate here. But they 
>>> all relate to possible changes in operating habits using LOGIC, 
>>> concessions, etc., when
>>> the complexity of two rigs is added.
>>>>>> It's hard to find more than one serial port on a PC 
>>> anymore...sometimes no COM port at all! Soon they will be gone 
>>> entirely. I only use a laptop with
>>> LOGIC when running Field Day or other contest scenario, but the laptops
>>> are
>>> notorious for no longer having COM ports. Yours & Jack's suggestion to
>>> use a
>>> USB-derived serial interface sounds like the best future-looking
>>> solution,
>>> even though it's a bit pricey. It's surprising that transceiver mfgrs 
>>> are
>>> still using a serial bus, when USB, Bluetooth, firewire, and even WIFI
>>> are
>>> available to them. Yes, it costs them money to develop something new,
>>> but......
>>>>>> I appreciate your (and others') insights into solving my new 
>>> problem. I still have to think through antenna, amplifier, and 
>>> soundcard switching. New rig = highclass problems!
>>>>>> Tnx es 73
>>>>>> Dan
>>> K0DAN
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Robie" <aj4f at comcast.net>
>>> To: "K0DAN" <k0dan at comcast.net>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2007 10:13 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [LOGic] 2 RIGS IN LOGIC
>>>>>>>>> > Dan,
>>> >
>>> > Several others have commented already, but here is my bit! With a 
>>> > kenwood and a yaesu you will need two ports, one for each radio. 
>>> > You can use two
>>> > native serial ports on your mother board (assuming you have them!),
>>> > serial
>>> > ports on an expansion board, USB to serial converters etc. I have
>>> > successfully used all of the above at one time or another. I have
>>> > heard
>>> > that some individuals have had problems with serial ports on lap top
>>> > computers. Personally, I have never used Logic on a lap top, so I 
>>> > have
>>>> > no
>>> > first hand experience. Currently, I use one native serial port 
>>> > connected to a CI-V interface for my IC746 and a USB to serial 
>>> > converter connected
>>> > to my Elecraft K2. Both work well. My computer is an old generic AMD
>>> > running Windows XP.
>>> >
>>> > I hope this helps!
>>> >
>>> > Robie - AJ4F
>>> > ----- Original Message -----
>>> > From: "K0DAN" <k0dan at comcast.net>
>>> > To: "LOGic is open to all radio amateurs for discussion of LOGic
>>> > logging
>>> > program" <logic at mailman.qth.net>
>>> > Cc: <aj4f at comcast.net>
>>> > Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2007 8:57 PM
>>> > Subject: Re: [LOGic] 2 RIGS IN LOGIC
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >> Hi Robie...
>>> >>
>>> >> So is this bottom line that I need a separate serial port for 
>>> >> each radio?
>>> >>
>>> >> Barring availability of multiple serial ports on the hamshack PC, 
>>> >> do
>>> >> I
>>> >> have
>>> >> an option to look for one of the multi-serial kludge devices and/or
>>> >> USB-to-serial black boxes?
>>> >>
>>> >> Seting up each rig in LOGIC is easy and obvious, altho the 
>>> >> interface to the
>>> >> outside world is a little more mysterious.
>>> >>
>>> >> One rig is a Yaesu, one's and Kenwood.
>>> >>
>>> >> Tnx es 73
>>> >>
>>> >> Dan
>>> >> K0DAN
>>> >>
>>> >> ----- Original Message -----
>>> >> From: "Robie" <aj4f at comcast.net>
>>> >> To: "LOGic is open to all radio amateurs for discussion of LOGic
>>> >> logging
>>> >> program" <logic at mailman.qth.net>
>>> >> Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2007 1:56 PM
>>> >> Subject: Re: [LOGic] 2 RIGS IN LOGIC
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>> Dan,
>>> >>>
>>> >>> In a nut shell, you must set up each rig with its own port using 
>>> >>> the setup menu. You will see a seperate "rig" display for each 
>>> >>> rig in Logic. You
>>> >>> can select the rig from which Logic will collect data on the Main 
>>> >>> log
>>> >>> form.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> If you have multiple ICOM rigs I believe it is possible to use 
>>> >>> only one port and simply specivy different addresses for each 
>>> >>> rig.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Robie - AJ4F
>>> >>>
>>> >>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> >>> From: "K0DAN" <k0dan at comcast.net>
>>> >>> To: <logic at mailman.qth.net>
>>> >>> Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2007 12:55 PM
>>> >>> Subject: [LOGic] 2 RIGS IN LOGIC
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>>I just added another transceiver to the hamshack and now have 
>>> >>>>two HF stations on the air simultaneously. Can't find anything 
>>> >>>>in the HELP index for setting up two rigs with LOGIC.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> What options do I have in order to connect both to LOGIC?
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> It'd be preferable to have both rigs simultaneously interfaced 
>>> >>>> with LOGIC, but I could live with fast switching between the 
>>> >>>> two rigs (but prefer not to have to swap cables and change 
>>> >>>> setup menu each time).
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> Has this topic been sent to the archives?
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> Tnx es 73
>>> >>>> Dan
>>> >>>> K0DAN
>>> >>>> _______________________________________________
>>> >>>> LOGic mailing list
>>> >>>> LOGic at mailman.qth.net 
>>> >>>> http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/logic
>>> >>>
>>> >>> _______________________________________________
>>> >>> LOGic mailing list
>>> >>> LOGic at mailman.qth.net 
>>> >>> http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/logic
>>> >>>
>>> >>
>>> >
>>> >
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>> LOGic mailing list
>>> LOGic at mailman.qth.net http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/logic
>>>>>>> ================================
>> WHEN REPLYING, PLEASE INCLUDE A COPY OF
>> THIS MESSAGE IN YOUR REPLY. THANK YOU.
>>>> Personal Database Applications
>> 1323 Center Dr.
>> Auburn, GA 30011-3318 USA
>>>> 770-307-1511
>> 770-307-1496 tech support
>>>> Check out our web page! Tell others about it! Thanks.
>>>> http://www.hosenose.com/
>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
> LOGic mailing list
> LOGic at mailman.qth.net http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/logic
>> _______________________________________________
> LOGic mailing list
> LOGic at mailman.qth.net http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/logic
>
_______________________________________________
LOGic mailing list
LOGic at mailman.qth.net http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/logic